[ExI] 27 psychedelics??

[Dan TheBookMan]

Ah, my mistake. Don’t know why I typed that. Sorry about that. And it was most barbiturates that killed the folks Spike listed — not heroin. ;)

Regards,

Dan

> On Apr 26, 2022, at 2:19 PM, Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> Cmon that was pretty clearly a typo.  There's plenty of actual content you could have responded to instead of cherry picking an error
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>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2022, 5:13 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> She died from a heroin overdose. Again, not a narcotic.   Oh? Since when?  bill w
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>>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 3:22 PM Dan TheBookMan via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>> On Mar 18, 2022, at 6:50 PM, spike jones via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>> From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf Of Will Steinberg via extropy-chat
>>>> Subject: Re: [ExI] 27 psychedelics??
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>>>> >…Why are you so against it?  I don't really understand.  Upbringing?  It seems very anti-learning…
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>>>> Could be early perceptions are influencing my attitude.  When I was a child, rock stars seemed to be dropping dead regularly.  Judy Garland (ja I know she wasn’t a rock star, but liked her voice),
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>>> Judy Garland died from a barbiturate overdose — not from using psychedelics. 
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>>>> Alan Wilson,
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>>> Wilson also died from a barbiturate overdose — not from using psychedelics. 
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>>>> Jimi Hendrix
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>>> He died from asphyxiation after using barbiturates from choking on his own vomit. Again, not from psychedelics.
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>>>> and Janis Joplin
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>>> She died from a heroin overdose. Again, not a narcotic.
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>>>> were all in the same few weeks as I recall, Jim Morrison
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>>> Seems to have died of a heroin overdose too, though no autopsy was performed.
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>>>> was a little later, Mama Cass they half-ass tried to tell us she choked on a ham sandwich, but we suspect it was dope or perhaps heart failure. 
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>>> Based on what? The coroner said she choked to death while eating a sandwich in bed. Why do you believe this to be in error? Anyhow, probably not psychedelics.
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>>>> It did seem like drugs were taking a lotta stars,
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>>> The drugs being barbiturates, heroin, and eating in bed — not psychedelics. (I’d hazard a guess alcohol and tobacco have probably done more stars in.)
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>>>> and ja I realize acid ODs are not fatal usually but in any case, I do admire your openness and honesty about the risks, going crazy and vast nightmare realms.  That last part has a poetic ring to it, but I would rather read about it in a poem than live it.
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>>> The risks I’d be more worried about with psychedelics are a) not knowing what you’re getting — which could mean the dose level as well as impurities, both factors having to do with they’re mostly being illegal — and b) doing something dangerous while on them — such as deciding to walk into traffic. The second can be mitigated by having trusted people around to guide you.
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>>> Regards,
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>>> Dan
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