[ExI] chinese fires, was:RE: book review

[Will Steinberg]

Suffice to say the basement was a spook, that was never really part of it
apart from the crazies.  It's more generally just about a DC pedophile ring
which is pretty much guaranteed to exist as these kinds of things happen
wherever powerful people congregate--see also Jimmy Savile, Prince Andrew,
Epstein, etc.  And the fact that certain people in the DC socialite circuit
posted some really really creepy stuff involving kids, and that led down
some other paths to more creepy people.  The basement and that guy with the
rifle were always fringe and not really part of the theory.

In any case all I'm trying to say is that I was there as people were
compiling the whole Paul Pelosi thing and it was messy and very unclear.
Just not a great hill to die on in terms of fed lies since I think there
are easier more presentable pathways.

In a way I also think I harbor resentment against people who just get the
fox news conspiracy digest because I spend a good amount of time in the
places where the sausage is made and they are hard places to stick around.
Lots of very nasty, hateful people.

On Thu, Dec 1, 2022, 12:50 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Pizzagate, Will?  Goings on in a pizza parlor basement that has no
> basement?  Well, I am in ignorance of all the facts, so maybe it has a
> basement?
>
> I stay away from most of this because all of us lack vital information
> about what actually happened in several of these cases.  In that absence,
> any theory can seem valid to an extent.  But what happened to Ockham?  bill
> w
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 11:33 AM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> Spike, sorry but you're out of your element.
>>
>> I'm MORE into conspiracy theories than you.  I am more fringe than you.
>> I literally saw that Pelosi theory emerge on the forums it started on.  I
>> am a primary source.  I believe in Pizzagate and a 9/11 conspiracy for
>> fuck's sake.  The Pelosi hammer thing is tenuous and there are far clearer
>> and better examples of the FBI lying.  I'm not sure why you decided to
>> cling to this one but I'm telling you that I was witness to its formation
>> before it was chewed up and excreted on whatever tucker-carlson-esque
>> conservaslop channel you saw it on.
>>
>> I'm not being aggressive because I'm against you.  I'm being aggressive
>> because we are in many ways on the same side but you are choosing to
>> regurgitate propaganda instead of actual nuanced argument.   I'm telling
>> you man the stuff you say just sounds like any fox news boomer, and I
>> imagine your palette of sources and depth of research is about the same as
>> that.
>>
>> If you'd like to be convincing at least show sources, otherwise I will
>> assume your source is a single bread-and-circus TV show segment.
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