[ExI] pay to not play

Will Steinberg steinberg.will at gmail.com
Mon Dec 5 21:58:07 UTC 2022

Elon is an idiot for getting himself into this mess buying it.  It is
VASTLY overvalued.  Its inflated value is in the ability to steer cultural
trends (i.e. as a propaganda tool by governments and large corporations
etc.) but the users don't see any of that value themselves.  Nobody
actually likes Twitter.  Its most diehard users often talk about how much
they hate it and call it "the hell site".  People just go there to argue
and be stupid for the most part.  Clear to anyone smart that it is a BAD

Elon just bought it because he is addicted to Twitter himself and because
his big mouth got him to make a financial promise he couldn't break.  The
whole saga exemplified a lot of foolishness on his part.  Perhaps he can
monetize it but it's not going to be from a subscription model because
people don't like the site.  He will have to change it entirely.

On the other hand, people who think he is destroying Twitter are not smart
either, as they shout that kinda stuff ON TWITTER.   The site looks like it
will continue on the same path, losing money until it is overtaken by
something better, unless there are major innovations.  I think Elon is
capable of that stuff sometimes but he also huffs his own shit fumes too
hard and lacks commitment to his side projects.  I do like Tesla and
SpaceX, but that guy does need a slap in the face and to get told to shut
up sometimes.  It's not surprising he got dumped by his wives and
girlfriends so many times.  He truly is a manchild and his Twitter posts
are very cringe

On Mon, Dec 5, 2022, 4:48 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Klos <john at ziaspace.com>
> ...
> >...The evidence that was shared with IT experts was unquestionably
> accessed
> after it was collected. What actually was changed and by whom can't be
> known
> precisely...
> Good then we need to call everyone to the witness stand to testify under
> oath.  We need the guy who wrote it, the guy who received it, and the
> computer guy.
> ...
> >...You trust Elon to what?
> To shine a light where currently there is darkness and decay.
> >...He's a manchild with problems who doesn't understand regular people. He
> shows a lack of capacity for empathy...
> Empathy is not necessary to shine a bright light of day on what I fear is a
> secret effort to suppress other people's ideas.
> >...If you say "free speech", then do you really think that platforming
> Nazis and white supremists is the price we have to pay to not overstep?
> John
> John they can take that kind of stuff down, and Elon is doing it, starting
> with that rap star guy whose name I forget, who is a Nazi.  What Elon
> brings
> is openness: if something is taken down it should be labeled, archived and
> a
> reason given.  There have been credible accusations of shadow banning at
> Twitter, which can under some circumstances continue, but the person being
> shadow banned gets to know it is happening.  Ja I understand that is a
> contradiction in terms and that true shadow banning requires stealth, to
> intentionally decrease the reach of memes Twitter doesn't like, but I would
> note that one sitting in the shade of a beautiful Oaktree is in its shadow,
> yet can still see and be seen.  I will settle for pseudo-shadow banning.
> I say define the rules, code them, let software do what software does so
> well, get Twitter breaking even as soon as possible because otherwise there
> is no Twitter at all, and I think it has enormous value to the world.  That
> company cannot keep operating at a loss.  They were hemorrhaging so fast,
> they had little time left.  I don't know where those 4 million bucks a day
> were coming from before, but that is some serious red ink there.
> spike
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