[ExI] what would any of us have done differently?
Brent Allsop
brent.allsop at gmail.com
Tue Dec 13 22:24:34 UTC 2022
P.S.
Can anyone recall how bad things were in this group on the topic of
"qualia" before canonizer came along?
Everyone bleating and tweeting the same old TERRIBLE arguments for one side
or another, over and over, add infinitem, every time someone mentioned
qualia?
Then has anyone noticed how different things are once this emerging
consensus topic on canonizer
<https://canonizer.com/topic/88-Theories-of-Consciousness/6-Representational-Qualia#statement>
showed
up?
Instead of all the bleating and tweeting, now everyone just points to their
current camp, and everyone can see the current state of all of our
continued finally great discussions.
Heck even Stathis is now on the verge of admitting the popular consensus
functionalists are wrong
<https://canonizer.com/topic/88-Theories-of-Consciousness/18-Qualia-Emerge-from-Function>,
right Stathis?
And functionalism has significantly decreased in consensus.
We never could have achieved that much progress without canonizer.
Brent
On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 3:13 PM Brent Allsop <brent.allsop at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Yes, Yes.
> Please oh please, STOP all the *Bleating and Tweeting* that is ripping
> society apart.
> The business model of all these bubbly "social networks" is to find things
> we disagree on, then fan the bleating and tweeting flame wars as much as
> possible.
> We won't be able to survive this
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlRnotq4npw> unless people do the work
> required to implement a solution to this problem.
> No matter where you go on the internet, even the so-called "trusted news
> sources" and any so-called "peer reviewed Journals" someone can just call
> it "fake news", as is even evident on this long thread getting off on
> polarizing tangents, already.
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> We desperately need a trusted source of information, which can be achieved
> by building and tracking consensus on important moral topics. Nothing is
> censored on Canonizer, but you can't stop someone from creating a camp to
> point out how evil a camp is. And of course the good camps will achieve
> far more consensus than the haters in lonely camps, finally achieving some
> trusted sources of information.
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> Just FYI, our 3.0 from the ground up rewrite of Canonizer.com is about to
> go live, so it might finally be a bit more usable.
> I trust all you guys so here is an early link to our beta version of
> canonizer <https://beta.canonizer.com/>. Do you think this is any better
> than the current 2.0 version of Canonizer.com <https://canonizer.com/>?
>
> Nobody can do this alone. We need help from people to achieve a critical
> mass. Otherwise I fear we will all end up destroying ourselves as we
> approach the singularity.
> Before you bleat or tweet something questionable, canonize it so people
> can have a chance to weigh in on, and build consensus around the most moral
> camp.
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> Building and tracking consensus is what I'm working to do differently!
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> Thanks,
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> Brent
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> On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 7:57 AM Dave S via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> On Tuesday, December 13th, 2022 at 9:45 AM, spike jones via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>> In any case, Twitter has become my main news source because I can control
>> it, unlike the mainstream press which chooses what you see and your only
>> choice is take it or leave it.
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>> I don't use twitter as a news source, but that sounds like a great way to
>> create an echo chamber. People naturally like them because they confirm
>> their biases, but they really aren't a great way to stay informed.
>>
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>> -Dave
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