[ExI] Why Tesla Can Program Its Cars to Break Road Safety Laws

[Jason Resch]

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, 11:01 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
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> >…I wouldn't want to be in a car that prevented the vehicle from
> performing an illegal U-turn in the event a tornado you spotted on the
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> Heh, excellent example Jason.
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Thanks. There are many black swan situations I don't think autopilot
systems are designed for, but a person would immediately recognize as an
imminent threat to be avoided: a mushroom cloud, tidal wave signs (receding
water), an angry mob, a spilled chemical/fuel slick, a hijacker/robber
pointing a weapon, a rock slide/mudslide/lava flow seen on an approaching
hill, a forrest fire (or smoke indicating one), a volcanic eruption, etc.

For current designs, the driver can take over, but many full self drive
cars envision vehicles without steering controls for any passenger.

I think such software will have to be programmed with a "fear if the
unknown" if it can't classify what it's sensors are detecting then it might
be most prudent to take avoidance steps, or request passenger input on what
to do.

Around where I live, there is another example: how can you program your car
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> There was a controversial product a few years ago: a guide for tourists of
> places you don’t go.  Understandably the people who live in the places you
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> value (well, some of them were annoyed (many were favorable to that rating
> (perhaps it attracted customers (and reduced their rent.))))  We have a
> local interstate freeway where passers-thru have been slain by gunfire
> while asleep in the back seat, on the interstate.  I don’t go that way.
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Interesting. I heard multiple families Sued google maps before they updated
it to stop guiding people through Brazil's gang controlled favelas:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4270716/Tourist-shot-Rio-family-used-Google-Maps.html

We had two extrocons near here.  So all these innocents were coming to my
> neighborhood where I know there damn well are areas where ya just don’t go,
> and the shortest route to places ya do go go thru there.  Twenty yrs ago we
> had one of our extrocons at UC Berkeley.  BERKELEY fer cryin out loud!
> Fortunately there were no injuries or serious fatalities.
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That's good to hear no one was hurt. I don't buy into the "we should hide
it because it hurts the real estate value" arguments, as locals know
already what areas to avoid if they can help it. Zillow used to have a
crime map, I think Trulia still does. More information is better and hiding
it doesn't promote getting the attention needed for finding solutions, or
enabling informed personal risk assessments and decisions.

Jason

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