[ExI] Nobody knows the true colors of things, on this day of color.

[William Flynn Wallace]

In some cases, perception is everything.  If I think the war is a great
success for RUssia and you think that it is a great tragedy, who's right?
You can't say that it is what it is because it isn't anything without
someone's perception.  Baseball play  "I'm safe. "   catcher  "He's out."
ump "He ain't nothing until I call it.  He's out!"

But if I say the Moon is made of green cheese, that's testable and not
defined by our perception.  Sometimes there is no reality except what the
person's perception says it is.  "I was being chased by a ghost."  His
reality; his perception.  bill w

On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 11:53 AM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 8:17 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> An "intrinsic" property of an object does not depend on how it is
>> perceived.   adrian
>>
>> How can there be a property of something that does not depend on our
>> perception of it?
>>
>
> By existing independent of whether we perceive it.
>
> If a tomato reflects photons of a wavelength in the red range and no other
> photons out of a white range of photons, but those particular photons all
> fall on the ground, nearby plants, or other things that are neither eyes
> nor cameras, it has still reflected only those photons out of a white range
> of photons and is thus still red.
>
>
>> I think that what something is is dependent on what we think it is
>>
>
> You may think that, but it is incorrect.  There are a lot of people
> wishing really hard about certain aspects of the world - certain measurable
> aspects of the war in Ukraine come to mind.  Literally, they are trying to
> think of it as something other than what it is, in the sense of "what we
> think it is" that you meant.  As can be easily observed in many cases, they
> are having no effect on what it is.
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