[ExI] perception is reality - examples

[Jason Resch]

On Sat, Mar 19, 2022, 4:23 PM Dave S via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 3:59 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> Much of our experience consists of realities that we create.  Think of
>> tastes:  music, food, fashion.
>>
>
> You're talking about opinions, not physical properties like mass,
> location, velocity, color, density, etc. Physical properties aren't
> dependent upon perception. A million people could say that an object weighs
> 1 pound, but that doesn't affect the actual weight of the object.
>

I'm not sure about that. If no conscious beings lived in this universe,
then this universe could only be viewed from the vantage point of conscious
observers in some other universe, and then this universe we are in would be
only an abstract object from such a perspective.

As an abstract object, those conscious observers in that other universe
could say nothing of our universe's location, it's mass, or the masses if
items inside it, velocities of things in our universe, durations of time,
lengths of distances, etc. So in a sense, these physical properties are
dependent on being directly perceived by beings within the universe. When
the universe lacks shared first person plural perspectives, it becomes only
an abstract object which at best can only be described mathematically as
some static four dimensional structure.

Jason


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