[ExI] Just a simple question

Keith Henson hkeithhenson at gmail.com
Sat Dec 23 19:00:01 UTC 2023


I would suggest extreme caution in uploading brains.

Humans have evolved psychological traits that seem to be a bad idea if
the uploaded version has a lot of power.

Keith

On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 7:59 AM Kelly Anderson via extropy-chat
<extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
> For one thing, just as soon as someone is expert enough to upload
> their own mind, then that uploaded mind becomes the world expert
> immediately supplanting the former "expert" so if by expert you mean
> the best in the world, then there couldn't be one for more than a few
> milliseconds after they successfully upload their own mind. So being
> an expert at mind uploading is a brief career.
>
> On the other hand, there are experts in mind uploading today, if you
> count uploading the mind of a C. Elegans. That person will remain an
> expert at mind uploading for some time, I'd suspect.
>
> In today's world, there are rarely individual experts on anything
> leading edge. The reason for this is that to accomplish anything at
> the moment takes a large team. There's no single expert on space
> telescopes, but there are teams of experts on various subcomponents
> that constitute a space telescope, and other experts at actually
> getting said device into space.
>
> Another interesting line of reasoning revolves around the unknowable
> legal structure surrounding the future of AIs. Will the uploaded brain
> of the upload expert be their own person? Will they have enough legal
> rights to claim expertise, or will they be an "owned" tool of the
> original uploadee? We can only imagine what those legal structures
> might look like, but I'd bet the AIs would be smart enough to argue
> their way into being recognized as legitimate sentient beings with
> some rights at some point.
>
> I found this question not to be at all stupid, but rather a good
> prompt for foraging through a quite interesting ideascape.
>
> -Kelly
>
> On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 7:47 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat
> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> >
> > How can there be an expert in mind-uploading?  bill w
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