[ExI] vaccines again

Mike Dougherty msd001 at gmail.com
Wed Jan 4 17:53:07 UTC 2023

On Wed, Jan 4, 2023, 12:32 PM John Klos via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> >> ...You're not writing to children, Spike, who can easily be tricked by
> >> stuff like this. California rail has failed and will fail because of
> >> capitalism, not because of the lack of it...
> >
> I seriously wonder what you hope to achieve here. Do you want us to
> believe that your understanding of capitalism stops at a fifth grade
> social studies level? If we believe that you're that naive, then do you
> really want us to just agree with you because we don't have the energy to
> argue with something this ridiculous?
> I want to believe you have a better understanding than this, but you keep
> disagreeing.
> You have all these silly non sequiturs, like "trains introduce danger from
> fellow passengers". Huh? Why does every discussion devolve in to tangents
> that have nothing to do with the root of the discussion?
> If you want to understand how capitalism has made government wasteful and
> horribly inefficient, then learn how that explains the failure of rail in
> California, there's probably a subreddit that's more appropriate for that.
> Capitalism broke the government, not the other way around. After all,
> which existed in a similar form longer than the other, and hasn't changed
> significantly because of the other? (causation != correlation, until we
> show the causation - one direction explains things, the other does not)

Is it just the nature of people to bicker as value signal?

It doesn't look to me like anyone is collaborating here.  It seems more
like lobbing "no idiot, look at it my way" from opposite entrenched
positions.  It's tiresome.

fwiw, I'm not singling John out specifically,  his was just the most recent
in the thread.

Meh, I guess mine is now just more noise. I fully expect to be told that
I'm wrong... because that's all communication seems to be anymore (here,
twitter, facebook, or wherever communication is attempted)

"I understand the point you were trying to make, despite the difficulty to
be more clear, so I offer supporting details..." is so unlikely as to be
laughably naive. sigh

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