[ExI] Peer review reviewed

[Brent Allsop]

Same for me.  I loved ALL science, till my college physics classes.  I
couldn't get enough math, till my senior year in highschool, and college
math wasn't fun at all.  Just stress, and bad memories.
English, on the other hand, I hated all of that.  My mother would drill me
so hard on spelling words, I had the words, and the order memorized, before
I could spell them.  When the spelling test started in 4th grade, after the
first two words, I'd finished the rest of the words, having all them
memorized.  The teacher questioned why I put my pencil down before she gave
the rest of the words, so I explained it to her.  But I'd still likely
misspell a few.  And in high school, on one English test, the one section
on the test I was half way good at, you were to answer R or W for the
questions.  And since I thought R was for wrong and W was for right, I got
close to 90% of them wrong, far worse than had I just guessed.  I was able
to use this argument to my English teacher, and she gave me 90% correct on
that section, instead of the actual 10%.  ;(





On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 4:14 AM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Thank god some other people  think this.
>
> The whole current system is fucked.   School sucks and I think it's likely
> the root of most our problems here
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2023, 11:12 PM Gadersd via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> I am almost completely self-taught. Self-motivation is what made this
>> possible. Perhaps I underestimated the inherent curiosity of most people? I
>> think humans are naturally curious and will master a subject on their own
>> accord if they aren’t dissuaded. Formal education teaches children to
>> associate learning with stress and examinations which results in children
>> viewing reading and learning as a chore. This may reduce the likelihood of
>> children choosing to learn in their free time. I never felt studying
>> Physics to be a chore until I studied it at university. The bitterness
>> still lingers.
>>
>> On Jan 6, 2023, at 6:46 PM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>> Learning should be inherently pleasant and self motivated, not stressful.
>> Science should incite curiosity and wonder, not conjure tedium.
>>
>> Have you ever tried to teach anything to anyone?  If you think getting
>> self-motivation etc. can be easily achieved, you are very wrong.  Very
>> idealistic - not practical.  We do try, of course.  Math esp. is hard to
>> make fun.  bill w
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 4:05 PM Gadersd via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Our highly competitive formal education system leads children to
>>> associate learning with stress. The inflexible system for scientific
>>> research dissemination sucks the pleasure out of scientific writing and
>>> results in tedious papers that are painful to read.
>>>
>>> Learning should be inherently pleasant and self motivated, not
>>> stressful. Science should incite curiosity and wonder, not conjure tedium.
>>>
>>> Technology is bringing change. Instructors can no longer flay students
>>> with mind-numbing busywork assignments as solutions can often be found
>>> online and AI technology such as ChatGPT is now capable of solving most
>>> problems students are faced with. Large language models are becoming better
>>> and better and are now capable of intelligently assisting with all forms of
>>> writing, eliminating much of the tedium. The days of pain will no longer be
>>> plenty.
>>>
>>> On Jan 5, 2023, at 2:55 PM, Dan TheBookMan via extropy-chat <
>>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> <24ab2184-c024-44c5-81cc-4bc14851b965_1762x1173.jpeg>
>>>
>>> The rise and fall of peer review
>>> <https://experimentalhistory.substack.com/p/the-rise-and-fall-of-peer-review>
>>> experimentalhistory.substack.com
>>> <https://experimentalhistory.substack.com/p/the-rise-and-fall-of-peer-review>
>>>
>>> <https://experimentalhistory.substack.com/p/the-rise-and-fall-of-peer-review>
>>>
>>> No problems that can’t be fixed?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Dan
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