[ExI] Peer review reviewed

[Will Steinberg]

Man, this is like trying to organize the best shit-throwers in the shit pit
into groups instead of saying hey let's stop putting the kids in the shit
pit!

The modern educational system seems to be fully fucked and unsalvageable,
and I think it probably should be entirely replaced.  But it's a hell of a
racket so I don't really see it going anywhere unless there start to be
real economic incentives or disincentives

On Sat, Jan 7, 2023, 1:36 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> If you want to see a real swamp pit stinking to high Heaven, delve into
> educational research. The topic of whether students should be separated by
> ability or 'mainstreamed' is a hot topic and I do not know the current
> status of those ideas in actual schools.  It all depends on whether you
> want to consider that emotional damage (theoretical) will happen in
> students who do not make the upper levels of ability.  I say separate.
> Students should get used to their place in the world.  Being downrated
> might motivate them.  You may have to put the top students in virtual
> learning rather than sitting in a class with others of lesser ability
> (where they would be tutors rather than learners).  bill w
>
> On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 12:18 PM Dave S via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, January 7th, 2023 at 11:52 AM, William Flynn Wallace via
>> extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>> Montessori - learn what you want to at your own rate. Friend of mine went
>> to a school like that to the third grade. Moved to Oklahoma and had to be
>> put back in the first grade - could not read or write - but boy could he
>> fingerpaint.
>>
>>
>> Children can't be expected to know what they need to learn. Reading and
>> writing are mandatory skills: learning them should never be optional.
>>
>> Motivation needs a place to go - to aim your efforts at. What if someone
>> wasn't interested in anything a school had to offer? Both of my sons were
>> like that.
>>
>>
>> Public school aims at the least common denominator. That ensures that
>> critical skills are taught, but also ensures that intelligent,
>> self-motivated students will be bored to tears. Obviously, different
>> students need different teaching approaches.
>>
>> -Dave
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