[ExI] Peer review reviewed

[Gadersd]

What solution would you propose? I personally would have been much better off self-teaching on the internet as a child beyond the basics such as reading and writing which is mostly what I actually did, though I’m not confident this would work for most.

> On Jan 7, 2023, at 6:13 AM, Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> Thank god some other people  think this.
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> The whole current system is fucked.   School sucks and I think it's likely the root of most our problems here
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> On Fri, Jan 6, 2023, 11:12 PM Gadersd via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org <mailto:extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>> wrote:
> I am almost completely self-taught. Self-motivation is what made this possible. Perhaps I underestimated the inherent curiosity of most people? I think humans are naturally curious and will master a subject on their own accord if they aren’t dissuaded. Formal education teaches children to associate learning with stress and examinations which results in children viewing reading and learning as a chore. This may reduce the likelihood	of children choosing to learn in their free time. I never felt studying Physics to be a chore until I studied it at university. The bitterness still lingers.
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>> On Jan 6, 2023, at 6:46 PM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org <mailto:extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>> wrote:
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>> Learning should be inherently pleasant and self motivated, not stressful. Science should incite curiosity and wonder, not conjure tedium.
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>> Have you ever tried to teach anything to anyone?  If you think getting self-motivation etc. can be easily achieved, you are very wrong.  Very idealistic - not practical.  We do try, of course.  Math esp. is hard to make fun.  bill w
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>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 4:05 PM Gadersd via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org <mailto:extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>> wrote:
>> Our highly competitive formal education system leads children to associate learning with stress. The inflexible system for scientific research dissemination sucks the pleasure out of scientific writing and results in tedious papers that are painful to read.
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>> Learning should be inherently pleasant and self motivated, not stressful. Science should incite curiosity and wonder, not conjure tedium.
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>> Technology is bringing change. Instructors can no longer flay students with mind-numbing busywork assignments as solutions can often be found online and AI technology such as ChatGPT is now capable of solving most problems students are faced with. Large language models are becoming better and better and are now capable of intelligently assisting with all forms of writing, eliminating much of the tedium. The days of pain will no longer be plenty.
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>>> On Jan 5, 2023, at 2:55 PM, Dan TheBookMan via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org <mailto:extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>> wrote:
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>>> <24ab2184-c024-44c5-81cc-4bc14851b965_1762x1173.jpeg>
>>> The rise and fall of peer review
>>> experimentalhistory.substack.com
>>>  <https://experimentalhistory.substack.com/p/the-rise-and-fall-of-peer-review>The rise and fall of peer review <https://experimentalhistory.substack.com/p/the-rise-and-fall-of-peer-review>
>>> experimentalhistory.substack.com <https://experimentalhistory.substack.com/p/the-rise-and-fall-of-peer-review>
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>>> No problems that can’t be fixed?
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>>> Regards,
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>>> Dan
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