[ExI] What is "Elemental Redness"?

[William Flynn Wallace]

What is the label for a person who thinks that "brain excitation causes
experience" is wrong and that 'brain excitation IS experience'?  bill w

On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 7:56 AM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

>
> On 02/05/2023 02:42, Jason Resch wrote:
> > I don't follow why saying that "experience is" rather than "experience
> > is caused" escapes or answers the question of who is having the
> > experience.
>
>
> The 'who' is the neural pattern. This is the central point.
>
> I suppose you could say "experience is caused by the neural pattern, in
> the neural pattern", but that might be more confusing. To me at least,
> it's clearer to say the experience and the neural pattern are the same
> thing.
>
> The point is to eliminate the dualism implicit in the language used.
> It's not "my experience is caused by these neural patterns" (which
> implies the question "what am I? What is it that these patterns cause to
> have the experience?"), it's "I am these neural patterns, having this
> experience". And no, that doesn't mean only patterns created by
> biological neurons will do. Anything capable of producing the same
> patterns will produce the same result: Me.
>
> Ben
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