[ExI] What is "Elemental Redness"?

Giovanni Santostasi gsantostasi at gmail.com
Tue May 2 23:27:28 UTC 2023


By the way, GPT-4 now has eyes (grounding ongoing):
https://www.trendwatching.com/innovation-of-the-day/gpt-4-works-as-virtual-pair-of-eyes-for-visually-impaired-people

On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 10:39 AM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 8:50 AM Jason Resch via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> If you assume matter is fundamental (materialism) then you end up with
>> "the hard problem of consciousness" -- how to explain the appearance of
>> consciousness given only matter.
>>
>
> I may be misunderstanding something, but this does not seem to be a
> particularly hard problem.
>
> Consciousness is an emergent phenomena from certain configurations of
> matter.  There are many (many many) configurations that would qualify,
> though large as the set is, it is a tiny fraction - far less than one
> percent - of all possible combinations.  It is possible to fake this to a
> greater or lesser degree: there are constructs that appear at first to be
> conscious but more detailed examination reveals it is not.  Some
> configurations are of such greater degree that they even deceive themselves
> into thinking there is more to it - something perhaps fundamental about
> consciousness itself.
>
> (In other words, if p-zombies could exist - which depends in part on the
> definitions one uses for the concepts behind p-zombies - then we would all
> be p-zombies.)
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