[ExI] Culture war and universal values in the age of spiritual machines
efc at swisscows.email
efc at swisscows.email
Sun Nov 26 20:41:21 UTC 2023
I think that thought has occupied quite a few philosopher. I think the
fashionable thing in philosophy is the "platinum rule". But I could be
wrong.
Best regards,
Daniel
On Sun, 26 Nov 2023, William Flynn Wallace wrote:
>
> I'm not a fan of the concept "justice" without the machinery underneath
> defined. Otherwise it is just an empty term. So that's why I'm wondering
> about collapsing some of them into the others. daniel
> This sounds like a multiple regression type problem. Why not let some AI parse this one? Maybe everything on the list will collapse
> into the Golden Rule. bill w
>
> Best regards,
> Daniel
>
> On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 12:53 PM <efc at swisscows.email> wrote:
> Another interesting question is if some of those values can be collapsed
> into others.
>
> I'm not a fan of the concept "justice" without the machinery underneath
> defined. Otherwise it is just an empty term. So that's why I'm wondering
> about collapsing some of them into the others.
>
> Best regards,
> Daniel
>
>
> On Sun, 26 Nov 2023, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat wrote:
>
> > Saving this! THis is great - thanks Stuart.
> >
> > Commentary by S. Freud:
> >
> > The law to love your enemies is the most impossible thing to follow in any religion.
> >
> > bill w
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 12:13 PM Jason Resch via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> > This is wonderful. Thank you for sharing it.
> > Jason
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 12:41 PM Stuart LaForge via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> > I asked ChatGPT what set of moral values lay at the intersection of the
> > sets of all values espoused by the major religions of the world with
> > explicit references to their sacred texts. This was its answer and its
> > answer gave me hope that AI can help end the culture wars. So here are
> > the Five Moral Imperatives shared by the world's major religions:
> >
> > The Golden Rule and Reciprocity:
> >
> > Christianity: "So in everything, do to others what you would have them
> > do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets." (Matthew 7:12,
> > New Testament)
> > Judaism: "What is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow man. This is
> > the law: all the rest is commentary." (Talmud, Shabbat 31a)
> > Islam: "None of you [truly] believes until he wishes for his brother
> > what he wishes for himself." (Hadith of Prophet Muhammad, Bukhari and
> > Muslim)
> > Hinduism: "This is the sum of duty: do not do to others what would cause
> > pain if done to you." (Mahabharata 5:1517)
> > Buddhism: "Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find
> > hurtful." (Udana-Varga 5.18)
> > Sikhism: "As you deem yourself, deem others as well; only then you shall
> > become a partner in heaven." (Guru Granth Sahib, Ang 1299)
> >
> > Compassion and Love:
> >
> > Christianity: "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have
> > loved you, so you must love one another." (John 13:34, New Testament)
> > Judaism: "Love your neighbor as yourself." (Leviticus 19:18, Torah)
> > Islam: "And lower to them the wing of humility out of mercy and say, 'My
> > Lord, have mercy upon them as they brought me up [when I was] small.'"
> > (Quran 17:24)
> > Hinduism: "The whole world is full of God's glory; serve all beings as
> > God." (Ramayana, Yuddha Kanda 115.33)
> > Buddhism: "Radiate boundless love towards the entire world." (Buddha,
> > Sutta Nipata 149-150)
> > Sikhism: "One who recognizes the One Lord among all beings does not talk
> > of ego." (Guru Granth Sahib, Ang 99)
> >
> > Justice and Fairness:
> >
> > Christianity: "Do not pervert justice; do not show partiality to the
> > poor or favoritism to the great, but judge your neighbor fairly."
> > (Leviticus 19:15, Torah)
> > Judaism: "Justice, justice shall you pursue." (Deuteronomy 16:20, Torah)
> > Islam: "O you who have believed, be persistently standing firm in
> > justice, witnesses for Allah, even if it be against yourselves or
> > parents and relatives." (Quran 4:135)
> > Hinduism: "Justice, when it is corrupted, destroys; but when it is
> > upheld, it upholds the world." (Mahabharata 12.131.6)
> > Buddhism: "Conquer the angry man by love; conquer the ill-natured man by
> > goodness; conquer the miser with generosity; conquer the liar with
> > truth." (Dhammapada 223)
> > Sikhism: "Justice is the mint, courage the brave coin. When the coin of
> > justice is made, it is tested by courage." (Guru Granth Sahib, Ang 1088)
> >
> > Charity and Generosity:
> >
> > Christianity: "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide
> > purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that
> > will never fail." (Luke 12:33, New Testament)
> > Judaism: "Do not be hard-hearted or tight-fisted toward your poor
> > brother." (Deuteronomy 15:7, Torah)
> > Islam: "The example of those who spend their wealth in the Way of Allah
> > is like that of a grain that sprouts seven ears, and in every ear there
> > are a hundred grains." (Quran 2:261)
> > Hinduism: "The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray."
> > (Yajur Veda)
> > Buddhism: "If beings knew, as I know, the result of giving and sharing,
> > they would not eat without having given." (Itivuttaka 26)
> > Sikhism: "Serve the True Guru, and you shall obtain the fruits of your
> > heart's desires." (Guru Granth Sahib, Ang 1299)
> >
> > Truth and Honesty:
> >
> > Christianity: "Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak
> > truthfully to your neighbor, for we are all members of one body."
> > (Ephesians 4:25, New Testament)
> > Judaism: "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor."
> > (Exodus 20:16, Torah)
> > Islam: "O you who have believed, fear Allah and be with those who are
> > true." (Quran 9:119)
> > Hinduism: "The truth which satisfies the heart is true." (Mahabharata
> > 5:124.9)
> > Buddhism: "In speech that is gentle, truthful, and beneficial, one
> > should address others." (Anguttara Nikaya 10.176)
> > Sikhism: "Truth is the trade of the Guru's children; practice truth in
> > your mind." (Guru Granth Sahib, Ang 471)
> >
> > As a human being, I am deeply moved by this and hopeful for a bright
> > future where men and machines explore the galaxy together.
> >
> > Stuart LaForge
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