[ExI] Survival of the nicest: have we got evolution the wrong way round?

[Dave S]

On Tuesday, April 9th, 2024 at 1:24 PM, Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 5:30 AM Dave S via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> Libertarians aren't opposed to voluntary cooperation.
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> Except in practice when:
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> 1) Other people need them to cooperate in order for the other people to survive, but they'd be just fine in the short term not cooperating, so how dare these other people resort to force, or

That doesn't sound like voluntary cooperation, it sounds like "do this or we'll force you to do it".

> 2) Other people refuse to voluntarily cooperate with them on things they need others' cooperation on in order to survive, which - being a threat to their survival - justifies their use of force upon others.

That violates the nonaggression principle, so not libertarian. Of course, if it comes down to survival, people will likely violate their principles.
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