[ExI] teachers

[Jason Resch]

Before the current generation of image generators, there was an effort to
make a "Creative Adversarial Network", which I write about here:

https://alwaysasking.com/when-will-ai-take-over/#Art

He created a new type of AI he calls a Creative Adversarial Network or
(CAN). The goal of a CAN is to create novelty: for example artwork in
styles different from what it’s seen before.

Accordingly, artwork produced by a CAN leans towards abstract pieces.
Elgammal said, “I am surprised by the output every time I run it.”

Jason

On Sun, Jan 28, 2024, 8:31 PM Henry Rivera via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> A friend of mine started this project in an attempt to have a machine
> create “true art.” He started this long before the AI revolution btw. He
> argues that he has created creative bots. You be the judge.
>
> [image: cloudpainter_logo_600wide_colorssquare.png]
>
> Pindar Van Arman's cloudpainter <https://www.cloudpainter.com/>
> cloudpainter.com <https://www.cloudpainter.com/>
> <https://www.cloudpainter.com/>
>
> -Henry
>
> On Jan 28, 2024, at 5:37 PM, efc--- via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
> From my position as a teacher it is pretty easy to spot the difference
> since many students don't even bother to change the output.
>
> Most just put the raw output of a chat gpt question in a document and
> present it as their own, so when 70-100% of the text is the same, it is
> easy to slap a cheat label on them.
>
> The same for coding assignments when you can get 10-15 students with the
> exact same variable names, structure, and order of calls.
>
> But... a highly motivated cheater who actually applies some intelligence
> to the task will of course be able to cheat way more easily.
>
> Best regards,
> Daniel
>
>
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2024, Will Steinberg via extropy-chat wrote:
>
> The updated Turing test should see whether a computer can make true Art.
>
> It’s no surprise that AI excels in optimizing derivative content—that’s
> what it is made to do.  School essays already may as well be
>
> copies of one another, made according to algorithms.  Is it really
> shocking at all that AI can pump out the same commodified crap
>
> people already do—essays, ad copy, tutorials, illustrations, web design?
>
> When an AI can create *of its own volition* works of art that hang in
> museums, then it passes the test.
>
> AI can already be used by skilled humans to make true Art, but when it
> makes some itself then I’ll be convinced
>
> On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 10:58 AM Gregory Jones via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>      BillW's question regarding the instructor's task of distinguishing
> between a student and AI puts a final nail in the
>
>      coffin of Turing's test.  Artificial intelligence is able create an
> illusion of consciousness so convincing, we are still
>
>      debating if it really is the real thing, all while failing to
> adequately define precisely what we mean by "real."
>
> spike
>
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