[ExI] [Extropolis] Re: Musk set up 100,000 Nvidia H200 GPUs in 19 days - Nvidia says ​it normally takes 4 years

[Keith Henson]

@Keith I feel I have provided an explanation,

Sorry, If you did, I missed it.

> you’re just choosing to not listen unless I agree that your model explains all of why people like Trump.

Ignore Trump, do you have an explanation as to why MAGA and QAnon
activity/belief is concentrated in the economically depressed areas of
the country?  Or conversely, why do these memes get little traction in
relatively prosperous places?

> I’m not sure why you think the single brain level is the only important factor for what humans do.  We have the entirety of culture and memetics forming emergent mind structures and they have their own set of traits.

Are you aware of how much I have written on memes?  Richard Dawkins
acknowledged my work in the second edition of The Selfish Gene.

MEMETICS AND THE MODULAR-MIND Analog 1987

http://www.churchofvirus.org/bbs/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=29007

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.mindcontrol/c/MebHkQFkUT4/m/rAwQ5rwDPhAJ

> Children raised in isolation are like animals, but you seem to think that all people are solely these animals.

My work is all over the web.  I don't think you can support such a
claim.  But try it and let me know.

Keith

 I truly don’t get it when everything apparent points to there being
so much more than just the evolved physical content of brains.

On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 9:58 AM Will Steinberg <steinberg.will at gmail.com> wrote:
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> John as usual you have purposefully or ignorantly misread so much of what I said that it is almost impossible to respond.  It is a sisyphean task and I’m not sure why I do it.
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> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 7:47 AM John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 6:44 PM Will Steinberg <steinberg.will at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> > None of your reasons are what I mentioned.
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>> Obviously you're right that none of the reasons I mentioned have decreased Trump's popularity with the Nazi-Curious one bit, but that fact is incompatible with something else you said, "Intelligence is not the issue".
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> I’m not sure the point of this part, I’m pointing out that you did your typical thing of completely ignoring the main point and responding with whatever random bullshit is in your head and you want to say.  It is very much like Trump does.  Your brash ignorance and lack of understanding or care about context as well as the way you act like you believing something makes it fact are Trumpian.
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>>> > Nobody cares what Trump will do
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>> Nobody? I care, in fact a majority of American voters care, but of course their votes do not elect the president, only the 538 members of the electoral college are allowed to vote for the president. I will however concede the fact that YOU do not care.
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> By “nobody” I obviously meant “nobody [who is voting for Trump].”
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>>> they care that he’s not the old political elite oligarchy
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>> Trump is the oldest man to ever run for president from a major political party in the entire history of the country, Trump is a former president, Trump is a billionaire, Trump has the richest man in the world LITERALLY dancing around him.... and yet he's not a member of the "old political elite oligarchy"?  No Will, intelligence is very much an issue.
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> Yes John, when you explore a concept, you have to look at THE WHOLE FUCKING THING.  Trump hasn’t been part of the old political oligarchy because unlike all the other people who run he wasn’t inside the party machines.  He dealt with them (and was a Democrat forever) but it’s very different from being inside them and being beholden to them.  This is the obliteratively obvious point I am trying to make.  Trump may be a corporate oligarch but he’s not a political one.  And I would argue he wasn’t really a corporate one, he didn’t have his fingers in many serious pies.  More of a socialite and stuck to his real estate stuff and his dumb tv shows and ridiculous products, nothing like the heads of multinational food/chemical/oil/etc. companies who are seriously intermingled with government and routinely pull strings that affect foreign and domestic policies in a massive way.
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>>> > It’s not about policy,
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>> Obviously true, therefore it must be about intelligence, or rather the lack of it.
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> Or it could be about the other thing that I overtly said.  How does your mind work?  I don’t know how you manage to so perfectly miss every point.
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>>> > people don’t care when he breaks promises
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>> It's true that some people don't care that Trump breaks promises, and some people don't care that Trump tells an obvious bold-faced lie about once every 35 seconds in every speech he gives. You care so little you say you're not even going to bother to vote. But I care, and I have already voted.
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> Again, the obvious meaning here is that people who like Trump don’t care if he breaks promises.
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>>>  > The fix is simple, just have a Democrat run who criticizes political elites.  But it isn’t happening, because the party won’t allow it, as seen with Bernie.
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>> Will, if you believe that an old man like Bernie Sanders, older than Trump and even older than Biden, could beat Donald Trump in a presidential race then I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you.
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> Well I see how this one could be misinterpreted but I wasn’t explicitly saying Bernie could beat Trump now, more trying to show that the Democrats scuttle the ascendancy of anyone who criticizes their political system.  But I do think he would have a shot at beating him.
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> @Keith I feel I have provided an explanation, you’re just choosing to not listen unless I agree that your model explains all of why people like Trump.  I’m not sure why you think the single brain level is the only important factor for what humans do.  We have the entirety of culture and memetics forming emergent mind structures and they have their own set of traits.  Children raised in isolation are like animals, but you seem to think that all people are solely these animals.  I truly don’t get it when everything apparent points to there being so much more than just the evolved physical content of brains.
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