[ExI] The Big Black Hole Question

[Jason Resch]

On Thu, Jul 10, 2025, 1:01 PM scerir via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

>
>
> > Regarding the astronomy use of the term, it is fun to think about.  Under
> > sufficient pressure, gravity overpowers everything and electrons are
> pushed
> > into the protons, which form neutrons, kerBOOM, supernova, result, huge
> ball
> > of neutrons.  COOL!  But... what if that neutron star is so big, it
> crushes
> > the neutrons?  What do neutrons crush into?  We don't know.  Our
> equations
> > fail us.  It's all a big virtual reality, I tells ye.  Wicked, evil it
> is.
> > The devil invented the whole system.  Rage against it.
> >
> > spike
>
> Quark stars are possible.
>
> But I remember that Daniel Greenberger wrote about an interesting
> uncertainty principle: delta m x delta tau > h, where m is mass and tau is
> proper time. In his theory, proper time and mass are physical quantities
> measured in a particular system of reference: the particle rest frame.
> Therefore, the proper time uncertainty delta tau expresses the standard
> deviation of measures from external frames of the reading an imaginary
> clock situated on the particle.
>
> Interesting the deep connection between mass and (proper) time.
>
>
> https://link.springer.com/book/9789819507313?srsltid=AfmBOoq6GQOG9_GyIN_djz2xudlwkszhypfd0xyyyOL3LCFV7LiaNcYj


Interesting. I wonder to what extent this mirrors, or relates the better
known time-energy uncertainty relation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle#Energy%E2%80%93time

https://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/uncertainty.html

The time-energy uncertainty relation is the most relevant bound for the
fastest physically possible computers. Clock speed is bounded by the
frequency of the system, which depends on mass/energy.

Jason
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