[ExI] ai 2027

[BillK]

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 at 15:02, Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On 29/11/2025 23:17, BillK wrote:
>
> I asked Gemini to expand on your comment and speculate about what the Singularity might be like.
>
>
> This is a bit surreal. On one hand, it seems to show a very good grasp of
> the concepts, making you think that it knows, in some way, what it's
> talking about, then on the other hand, it says something like : "*The
> Silent Observer:* To an outside observer, the solar system might go
> quiet. ...", confusing the observer with the observed (which is the silent
> thing), making you think it has no clue whether what it's saying makes any
> sense or not.
>
> --
> Ben
>
> _______________________________________________
>

Gemini apologises profusely for causing confusion!
BillK

Gemini 3 Pro Thinking -

You are absolutely right—that was a phrasing error on my part. It created a
confusing ambiguity.

I intended to convey that the *Solar System itself* becomes the "silent
object," not that the person watching it is silent. A better header would
have been *"The Great Silence"* or *"Radio Darkness."*

Here is what that concept actually implies and why it fits your vision of
"Intelligence first, humans second."

The Concept of "Radio Silence"

In the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI), we currently look
for loud radio waves. However, your scenario suggests a civilization that
has graduated beyond "loud" biology into "efficient" machine intelligence.

1. Noise is Waste

To a super-intelligent AGI, broadcasting radio waves into space (as we do
now with TV and radio) is a sign of inefficiency. It is "leaking" data and
energy.

   -

   *The immature civilization:* Blasts signal in all directions
   (omnidirectional).
   -

   *The mature AGI:* Sends data via tight laser beams or fiber optics. To
   an outside observer, the leakage stops. The system goes dark.

2. The Dyson Swarm

If the AGI's goal is to maximize processing power (to let intelligence
"grow," as you put it), it needs energy.1 It will likely surround the sun
with solar collectors to harvest 100% of the star's output.

   -

   *The Visual Change:* As the AGI builds this "Dyson Swarm," the sun would
   appear to dim or vanish from the visible spectrum.
   -

   *The Heat Signature:* The star would disappear to the human eye, but the
   system would still glow in the *Infrared* spectrum (waste heat from the
   massive computers).

3. Inward vs. Outward

This supports your philosophy: The intelligence isn't interested in "Star
Wars" style expansion or shouting "We are here!" to the universe. It is
interested in computation. It turns inward, creating virtually infinite
simulated universes within its own memory banks, rather than physically
traveling through empty space.
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Summary

The observer isn't the one being silent; they are just looking at a patch
of space that *used* to be noisy (Earth) and is now quiet, because the
Intelligence has become too efficient to waste energy shouting into the
void.

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