[Paleopsych] Fallujah video comment

Lynn D. Johnson, Ph.D. ljohnson at solution-consulting.com
Sun Nov 21 02:44:17 UTC 2004


Good questions. I will try to address . . .

Werbos, Dr. Paul J. wrote:

> At 08:53 AM 11/20/2004 -0700, Lynn D. Johnson, Ph.D. wrote:
>
>> The Left has been whining about 'quagmire' since Afghanistan. It is 
>> foolish. The Arab street will follow success, and we are clearly not 
>> in a quagmire. Fallujah is a remarkable success, and more such 
>> successes will follow as the Iraqi National Guard - especially the 
>> officer corps - gains experience and dedication.
>
>
> How do we know?

The officer corps has so far been weak; the enlisted men are therefore 
weak. The past few engagements it sounds to me like the Iraqi National 
Guard is coming together.

>
> One can construct scenarios either way.

Good point.

>
> We can declare that belief in a "good" scenario is better than
> belief in a "bad" scenario.

This is not good vs. bad, but a must-do if our civilization is to 
flourish. We are in a very bad spot. The sharia law moslem world has not 
worked in terms of freedom, material goods,  or innovation, but it does 
work for the reproductive strategy. Islamofascism is deeply tied in to 
the sharia approach of social organization, and if it succeeds, Israel 
will disappear, jews will be killed, and christianity will be next. IMHO.
    But if we can defeat the Islamofascists, it is possible to see a 
moderate version of Islam develop which will enrich the middle east and 
assure our immediate survival.

>
> We can even fire everyone who believes in "bad" scenarios.

Well I would see it differently. Bush needs a strong front line to carry 
on the war on terror, and he is just shuffling his people to get that. I 
am not sure he is right, but I hope he is.

>
> But how do we know which is true?
>
> I certainly wouldn't have blind faith in PR pieces from either side.
>
> There are times when the way of progress and the ways of faith
> are mutually orthogonal directions. (And when the ways of faith
> are 180 degrees off from each other.)

Yes, which is why we must defeat the islamofascists.

>
>
>
>> Iraq is to the war in terror as Italy was to WW II. It was of 
>> questionable importance, and arguably could have been leap-frogged. 
>> In terms of long-term victory in WW IV (which we are now in, having 
>> won WW III, thanks to Reagan and Gorbachev) we must achieve some form 
>> of liberal democracy in both Afghanistan and Iraq. Just as the 
>> communists achieved a certain domino effect following our withdrawal 
>> from Viet Nam, so liberal democracy can create a domino effect in the 
>> benighted middle east. Their socialist governments are the worst on 
>> the planet, and the Arab street will gladly forgive us when they see 
>> prosperity and freedom developing. Iran will fall to the youth (who 
>> are now passively resisting the Mullahs) and follow.
>> see: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61117-2004Nov18.html
>> Lynn
>>
>> Steve Hovland wrote:
>>
>>> Absolutely true from our point of view.
>>>
>>> Makes absolutely no difference on the Arab street.
>>>
>>> It defines "quagmire."
>>>
>>> Steve Hovland
>>> www.stevehovland.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
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