[Paleopsych] binary nature

Alice Andrews aandrews at hvc.rr.com
Sat Oct 30 16:55:21 UTC 2004


maybe...or maybe something along lines of ervin laszlo's 'bifurcation' in
dynamical systems theory...hmmm...

Alice

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Hovland" <shovland at mindspring.com>
To: "'The new improved paleopsych list'" <paleopsych at paleopsych.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 9:37 AM
Subject: RE: [Paleopsych] binary nature


> If you're looking for computer metaphors,
> consider "fuzzy logic."
>
> Steve Hovland
> www.stevehovland.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alice Andrews [SMTP:aandrews at hvc.rr.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:41 AM
> To: The new improved paleopsych list
> Subject: Re: [Paleopsych] binary nature
>
> Hi Michael,
> I  think you're right...Binary is the wrong word. It came to me as I was
> thinking of the word '(uni)versal' and  wanting to displace that 'uni'
> concept with a morpheme that reflected a dual or multilayered
> 'being'/nature.
>
> "However, it seems to me, that we'd be better off talking about
> multi-phylogenetic modes [along lines of (tri) MacLean or (quad) Jim
Henry]
> or even a bi-human nature...rather than uni."
>
> But, you're right re:
>
> >It's all part of one cycle, not two
> > separate things but two limits approached alternately
> > by one function.
>
> I guess the part that gets me stuck is that when we left-brainishly DO
start
> to categorize, we invariably want to say: the one function is a particular
> way--rather than saying the one function is a dual way. Does that make
> sense? It's early...
> And also I think  you're so 'right on' re the polarity question.
> Re the wimp factor: I think that these recent posts of mine are pretty
> wimpy...You're not likely to hear a man say "my Floresian-sized brain" or
> "I'm grappling" or "I don't think that was what I was talking about but
> maybe it was." These were all genuine feelings I had, which I expressed
> reluctantly, knowing that to male ear it would either be seen as phony
(from
> projection--since when do they ever feel such things?!!!!), or
manipulative
> in some way--since I'm a woman and why else express a weakness if not for
> some gain?????
> I'll go look at the Wimp link, thanks....
> I just yesterday heard on news Arnold preaching to a Republican crowd re
> something like: "You don't want a girly-man country, do you?? Yikes!
>
> All best,
> Alice
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael Christopher" <anonymous_animus at yahoo.com>
> To: <paleopsych at paleopsych.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 2:12 PM
> Subject: [Paleopsych] binary nature
>
>
> >
> > Alice says:
> > >>And/or we can take the more existential, romantic,
> > transcendental, dualistic route and say, one of human
> > nature's features is that it is binary.<<
> >
> > --I think "binary" is the wrong word. Humans, like
> > everything else in nature, oscillate. We're like the
> > tides. We go in, we go out. We're expressive, we're
> > introspective. It's all part of one cycle, not two
> > separate things but two limits approached alternately
> > by one function.
> >
> > In our culture we tend to believe in willpower, and we
> > keep trying to say "this is my final position." It
> > fails, because even if one side of a polarity is held
> > without wavering, it only increases the intensity of
> > the opposite swing. Conservatives will be shocked when
> > they discover their lock on power will only lead to a
> > more intense anti-conservative (or perhaps
> > anti-extreme?) backlash later on.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > PS: The Wimp Factor
> >
> > The author of a new and timely book reveals how
> > American politics is shaped by a cultural definition
> > of masculinity that is based on disavowing all things
> > feminine.
> >
> > http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/20343/
> >
> >
> >
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