[Paleopsych] RE: Off topic: therapeutic idea

Steve Hovland shovland at mindspring.com
Wed Mar 30 16:40:37 UTC 2005

Another piece of the depression puzzle is
John Gray's "The Mars and Venus Diet
& Exercise Solution."

He identifies low seratonin as the primary
cause of female depression and low
dopamine as the primary cause of male
depression.  Unfortunately he does not
give citations in the book, although I heard
him on the radio and he doesn't seem to
be making it up.

Both Perricone and Gray directly or indirectly
identify inadequate protein intake as a cause
of many problems.

Steve Hovland

-----Original Message-----
From:	Lynn D. Johnson, Ph.D. [SMTP:ljohnson at solution-consulting.com]
Sent:	Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:21 AM
To:	Steve Hovland; The new improved paleopsych list
Subject:	Re: Off topic:  therapeutic idea

That is very interesting. I haven't read Perricone, and now I think I 
had better do it. I just reserved three of his books (the fellow writes 
a lot!) at the library, and one of the books I am number 31 in the 
queue, and another I am #70! He won't be going to the dance with me any 
time soon!

Up until now, I thought flax oil was the best to convert to EPA, thanks 
for the alert. One question: price? Could it be more cost-effective to 
take widely available flax oil or is borage cost-competitive? I am 
working at home for another hour and on the way to work I will stop at a 
health food place and compare.

Total agreement on Alaskan salmon. The salmon at Albertsons is farm 
raised and I have been told that it is low in EPA/DHA.

Have you googled grass fed beef and Omega-3 oil? Apparently if you can 
purchase grass fed beef, it is equal to wild salmon for omega-3. A 
fellow here in Utah (Utah State, the aggie school) did the research. It 
is fattening the beef with soy and barley and so on that gives it the 
omega-6 and saturated fat load. Does Perricone mention that?
ps: I forwarded this interesting stuff to paleo in case others are 
interested in depression
Steve Hovland wrote:

>Per Nicholas Perricone, MD (The Perricone Prescription etc)
>Borage Oil may convert in the body more readily than
>Flaxseed Oil.  Available in capsules from health food stores.
>He also advocates Alaskan or Sockeye salmon as a
>premier source of EFA's.
>Steve Hovland
>-----Original Message-----
>From:	Lynn D. Johnson, Ph.D. [SMTP:ljohnson at solution-consulting.com]
>Sent:	Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:03 AM
>To:	The new improved paleopsych list
>Subject:	Re: [Paleopsych] Nanotechnology could promote hydrogen economy
>This reminds me of a story my brother told me. He had modeled hydrogen 
>storage in carbon nanotubes, and at a conference he was asked about it. 
>He replied that he didn't think it was feasible, that his modeling 
>studies showed it wasn't. He was skeptical about the possibility of 
>hydrogen being a transportation fuel. Afterwards, the guys who asked 
>came up and offered him a grant. (I think they were from LiquideAire or 
>a competitor) He was surprised and asked why they'd offer him money when 
>he didn't think that was the right direction. They replied that they 
>appreciated his honesty. They found that generally the hydrogen field 
>was full of people who were full of enthusiasm for unrealistic models.
>Frank posted recently about how scientists are constrained by unwritten 
>norms of what is allowed and what is forbidden. It is an ongoing 
>problem. Groups don't like core beliefs to be challenged, yet these are 
>precisely what keeps us from seeing the next step. In psychology there 
>is this big push toward Empirically Validated Treatments, aping physical 
>medicine, yet Wampold and others have shown conclusively that there is 
>no significant difference in distinct treatments because it is not the 
>technique of treatment that actually heals the patient, it is the common 
>factors. This will be a huge shift of the psychology paradigm, and one 
>that will come only slowly, and the old true believers die off.
>PS: RE: Zombies,  Paul, did you read Frank's posting of the David Brooks 
>piece on Schievo from NYT? It was excellent, and points out the ethical 
>trouble with characterization of brain-disabled people as vegetables 
>(or, more pejoratively, corpses). It is an ugly business on both sides, 
>both the pro-life and right-to-die people have some holes in their own 
>Paul J. Werbos, Dr. wrote:
>>At 07:16 AM 3/30/2005, Steve Hovland wrote:
>>>Contact: Carl Blesch
>>>cblesch at ur.rutgers.edu <mailto:cblesch at ur.rutgers.edu>
>>>732-932-7084 x616
>>>Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey <http://www.rutgers.edu>
>>>NEW BRUNSWICK/PISCATAWAY, N.J. - Say "nanotechnology" and people are 
>>>to think of micro machines or zippy computer chips. But in a new twist,
>>>Rutgers scientists are using nanotechnology in chemical reactions that
>>>could provide hydrogen for tomorrow's fuel-cell powered clean energy
>>Upon careful analysis of this technological effort, I find it hard to 
>>silence the voice
>>which responds in only one word:
>>The only really serious scientific puzzles are : "How can an organism 
>>be so stupid?
>>Is there any hope for survival for an endangered species which thinks 
>>this way?"
>>It is not obvious that there is even a qualitative difference in 
>>clarity of thinking between the
>>organisms that want to devote their lives to secure feeding tubes for 
>>corpses and
>>those who believe in the fundamentalist form of the hydrogen religion 
>>after all these years.
>>(Re the former, I had a kind of dream image last night of a kind of 
>>church choir
>>singing a hymn praying to have their zombie back, and a smiling 
>>Frankenstein in the middle...)
>>Actually, when the purist hydrogen wave was shoved in our faces 
>>particularly hard a couple
>>of year ago, I did try to think hard about how to give it maximum 
>>possible benefit of the doubt.
>>And -- biased myself by the VERY heavy political pressures -- I did 
>>even discuss a bit about
>>the hope for nanotube-based hydrogen storage to solve ONE of the 
>>in the initial version of my energy paper in the 2003 State of the 
>>But... there are all the others, and they don't add up.
>>For example, see the chicken and egg slide at
>>And there are those who pretend that thousand year eggs are real...
>>We don't HAVE a thousand years here.
>>Furthermore, cost and efficiency problems are overwhelming --
>>and, above all, there are three long-term alternatives all far more
>>sustainable, and near at hand. The purist version of hydrogen economy
>>is an effective rationalization for going to sleep, when we do have ways
>>to really solve our problems much closer at hand. One wonders who
>>supports this out of a desire to keep the rest of us asleep.
>>And indeed, there are certain folks who exploit other fundamentalist 
>>in a similar cynical way.
>>There are some perverse nonlinear effects here. The whole is greater 
>>than the sum of the parts,
>>and the collective level of insanity is often greater than the sum of 
>>the insanities of
>>individual humans. The previous paragraph gives ONE example of how 
>>this works:
>>ambitious people with very narrow blinders (focusing so hard in one 
>>direction they ignore what's
>>coming to eat them out of left field) manipulating other socially 
>>responsive people who
>>trust the manipulators more than they should. In fact... the total 
>>failure of the
>>Clinton-Gore energy independence efforts reflect this same phenomenon, 
>>albeit in a slightly different way.
>>In fact,, I have a very vivid memory from 1994, walking out of Gore's 
>>house (after the first bug
>>White House PNGV conference)... and hearing an explanation from his 
>>key OSTP
>>on this... of their policy of maintaining a simple party line at all 
>>times... it was a very conscious
>>philosophy. Unlike some of the corpse-feeders, they were very very 
>>open to fun rambling discussions..
>>which is deceptive... because they were not really open to reality. 
>>Good vibes... well...
>>it reminds me of the issue people have raised about trying to balance 
>>the principles of love and
>>of truth, and about how people lose it if they  chose one over the other.
>>In the end, if humanity in general is too fuzzy to take out its mental 
>>trash on this issue,
>>on its own, I have a gut feeling that the problem will be taken care 
>>of anyway... at a price.
>>At a severe price.
>>But... the clock ticks...
>>>In a paper to be published April 20 in the Journal of the American 
>>>Society, researchers at Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey,
>>>describe how they make a finely textured surface of the metal iridium 
>>>can be used to extract hydrogen from ammonia, then captured and fed to a
>>>fuel cell. The metal's unique surface consists of millions of 
>>>pyramids with
>>>facets as tiny as five nanometers (five billionths of a meter) 
>>>across, onto
>>>which ammonia molecules can nestle like matching puzzle pieces. This 
>>>up the molecules to undergo complete and efficient decomposition.
>>>"The nanostructured surfaces we're examining are model catalysts," 
>>>said Ted
>>>Madey, State of New Jersey professor of surface science in the physics
>>>department at Rutgers. "They also have the potential to catalyze 
>>>reactions for the chemical and pharmaceutical industries."
>>>A major obstacle to establishing the "hydrogen economy" is the safe and
>>>cost-effective storage and transport of hydrogen fuel. The newly 
>>>process could contribute to the solution of this problem. Handling 
>>>in its native form, as a light and highly flammable gas, poses daunting
>>>engineering challenges and would require building a new fuel 
>>>infrastructure from scratch.
>>>By using established processes to bind hydrogen with atmospheric 
>>>into ammonia molecules (which are simply one atom of nitrogen and three
>>>atoms of hydrogen), the resulting liquid could be handled much like 
>>>gasoline and diesel fuel. Then using nanostructured catalysts based 
>>>on the
>>>one being developed at Rutgers, pure hydrogen could be extracted 
>>>under the
>>>vehicle's hood on demand, as needed by the fuel cell, and the remaining
>>>nitrogen harmlessly released back into the atmosphere. The carbon-free
>>>nature of ammonia would also make the fuel cell catalyst less 
>>>to deactivation.
>>>When developing industrial catalysts, scientists and engineers have
>>>traditionally focused on how fast they could drive a chemical 
>>>reaction. In
>>>such situations, however, catalysts often drive more than one reaction,
>>>yielding unwanted byproducts that have to be separated out. Also,
>>>traditional catalysts sometimes lose strength in the reaction process.
>>>Madey says that these problems could be minimized by tailoring
>>>nanostructured metal surfaces on supported industrial catalysts, 
>>>making new
>>>forms of catalysts that are more robust and selective.
>>>In the journal article, Madey and postdoctoral research fellow Wenhua 
>>>and physics graduate student Ivan Ermanoski describe how a flat 
>>>surface of
>>>iridium heated in the presence of oxygen changes its shape to make 
>>>arrays of nanosized pyramids. The structures arise when atomic forces 
>>>the adjacent oxygen atoms pull metal atoms into a more tightly ordered
>>>crystalline state at temperatures above 300 degrees Celsius (or
>>>approximately 600 degrees Fahrenheit). Different annealing temperatures
>>>create different sized facets, which affect how well the iridium 
>>>ammonia decomposition. The researchers are performing additional 
>>>studies to
>>>characterize the process more completely.
>>>The Rutgers researchers are conducting their work in the university's
>>>Laboratory for Surface Modification, which provides a focus for research
>>>into atomic-level phenomena that occur on the surface of solids. It
>>>involves the overlapping disciplines of physics, chemistry, materials
>>>science and engineering. Their work is supported in part by grants 
>>>from the
>>>U. S. Department of Energy's Office of Basic Energy Sciences.
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