[extropy-chat] "The Spike" - Raymond Kurzweil

R.Coyote etheric at comcast.net
Thu Oct 30 19:25:28 UTC 2003

/me *shakes head*
To witness such ignorance about a subject from this otherwise brilliant

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert J. Bradbury" <bradbury at aeiveos.com>
To: <kilroy at hush.ai>; "ExI chat list" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] "The Spike" - Raymond Kurzweil

> On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Kilroy wrote:
> > The health risks of a_steroids have been vastly
> > overstated by the medical establishment.  The
> > resulting "violent tendencies" are in my experience
> > not as dramatic as those you get from drinking coffee,
> > or (for other people) alcohol.
> Well, I may be wrong, but what I have read suggest that
> the violent tendencies are real.  Though I would certainly
> agree that alcohol can lead to similar problems -- though
> the causes are quite different.
> > Once the basic risks are assessed and the remaining
> > problems addressed, why not?
> But much of your note suggested that it will be difficult
> to address those problems (at least with respect to HGH).
> The most basic risk I see is that problem with people who
> are not well informed about potential risks and simply do
> not understand that "more" is not always "better".  (Have
> you glanced at the WWF lately?  The idea that people will
> pay good money to go watch such "entertainment" (sarcasm
> intended) boggles my mind.  Hell the WWF makes cow tipping
> an olympic class sport.)  Now you give those "entertainers"
> and their fans the ability to self-enhance to their hearts
> content and things are going to get really messy.
> I'd like to hear Natasha comment on exactly where the lines
> need to be drawn.  (Can you self-enhance ones violent
> tendencies?  Can you self-enhance in self-destructive ways
> that will be cleaned up later by taxpayer supported medical
> care, etc.?)
> Robert
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