[extropy-chat] "The Spike" - Raymond Kurzweil

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They didn;t have HGH available when I was young, so I am stuck as a short
person until nano can fix it.
I'm still waiting for the "smart" pill that makes me think faster, improves
my memory to near perfection and will put me on par with the rest of you
though! :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kilroy" <kilroy at hush.ai>
To: "ExI chat list" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] "The Spike" - Raymond Kurzweil


> On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:06:53 -0800 "Robert J. Bradbury"
<bradbury at aeiveos.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >And on the front of human "enhancement".  We can take HGH
> >(within some limits) but not various steroids that would
> >improve athletic performance (perhaps with some downside
> >in longevity, violent tendencies, etc. etc.).
>
> Can't, legally.  Can, practically.
> The health risks of a_steroids have been vastly
> overstated by the medical establishment.  The
> resulting "violent tendencies" are in my experience
> not as dramatic as those you get from drinking coffee,
> or (for other people) alcohol. The main health risk
> from our perspective (to males over age 25) is that,
> when you use a-steroids, you have to eat a lot more,
> and this may cause more oxidative damage to your organs.
> A-steroids are incompatible with caloric restriction,
> just as weightlifting itself is.
>
> The real main downside is that you may have a SWAT team
> break into your house, throw you and anybody else
> in the house to the ground and hold guns to your
> head and shout at you for a few hours, take your
> cars and your house and the contents of your bank
> accounts away, and send you to jail for a long time.
>
> Also, no, you can't take HGH in general, except to
> help short kids grow taller, or as replacement
> therapy when you're older. I don't recommend it
> for most people.  It will give you bigger muscles,
> but it makes your organs grow larger, which gives
> you a fat gut and possibly heart problems.
> Even short-term use of small amounts HGH by an
> adult can make you look fat.  Kids don't have
> these problems with HGH because a) their bones
> can grow longer as well as the rest of them,
> and b) their heart can possibly still adapt
> its timing to an increased size, tho you'd have
> to ask a cardiologist for sure.
>
> >And certainly
> >we should not be selling on street corners "do-it-yourself"
> >injections for gene therapies to turn yourself into Hulk Hogan.
>
> Once the basic risks are assessed and the remaining
> problems addressed, why not?
>
>
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