[extropy-chat] The Force of Human Freedom [was - isAmericafascistyet?]

[Greg Burch]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hubert Mania
> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 8:07 AM
> To: ExI chat list
> Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] The Force of Human Freedom [was -
> isAmericafascistyet?]
> 
> 
> > The important thing is that we each have the freedom
> > to make our lives what we want them to be.  By that criterion,
> > I would say the U.S. is a pretty good place to do that
> 
> > spike
> 
> Sure, the existing concentration camps are not on us territory. Guantanamo
> Bay is in Cuba, Falluja and Abu Ghraib are in Iraq and the prisons, where
> the CIA and some even more secret services are practising torture for the
> profits of the us military and oil industry, are located somewhere between
> Afghanistan and Syria. The horrible spacetime of the 
> inexpressible pain and
> death of an imaginary enemy thankfully unfolds abroad. So, its coordinates
> fortnately do not disturb the tiny public space that is left in the
> usa between nothingness and entertainment.
> 
> humania

Hubert:

I won't try to engage you in dialogue about political conditions in the U.S. or the war in the Middle East -- our views are too far apart for that, I'm afraid.  I would like to ask two fairly narrow questions just to understand what your view of society in your own part of the world is.  

It seems clear that there is a large population of unassimilated Muslims in Europe.  Based on my own research, I conclude that the large, younger segment of this population is increasingly radicalized and inclined to religiously-motivated violence.  Do you agree?  If so, do you have any proposed solution to this?

GB