[extropy-chat] Alternative to Cryo was TheAmazingCellularRepairdevice

Brett Paatsch bpaatsch at bigpond.net.au
Sat Oct 15 23:01:25 UTC 2005

spike wrote:

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org [mailto:extropy-chat-
>> bounces at lists.extropy.org] On Behalf Of Eugen Leitl
>> ...
>> A really dumb brute-force approach would just destructively scan the bulk
>> at atomic resolution, and store atomic properties along with
>> the position. You could even compute a hash on that vector,
>> though I don't see why one would want to do that...
>> --
>> Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a>
> Actually I would think that kind of information would
> be better than keeping the actual lump of frozen
> meat.  If in the far future they figure out
> how to place atoms in any given state in any
> given position, the futurians would have an
> outside chance of recreating our brains, in
> fresh new bodies.  I want a buff one this time.
> If a destructive brain scan could somehow
> be performed without the freezing process,
> that might be a more promising approach than
> cryonics.

The atoms that you are composed of are mostly the ones
used by growing things. The organic chemistry ones.

Organic chemistry grows well but extrudes baddly.

I don't see how any future technology could put your
atoms back together by rebuilding the organic chemistry

You grew Spike. Your weren't put together in lego
block fashion. The organic chemistry, proteins, lipids
etc that make you up and hold your atoms in position
only hold together as they do under certain limits of
temperature and pressure etc.

If we could magically put all your atoms (the organic
chemistry atoms) into a file, the take that file and
magically recreate all the structures in the same place
then I'd agree we'd have a perfect functional equivalent
of the old Spike. But that process involves magic at
a couple of steps.

Its not clear to me that you can make a new Spike like
brain and body with a lego-block assembly approach
any more than you can make say an ice cream out of

You can't keep the heat out of the reassembly meat.
You can't get the nanobots if you had them small
enough to get into the spaces you need them too
in sufficient numbers fast enough because the organic
stuff your building with (cos that whats your old info
pattern was based on) will start to break down faster
than you can possibly build it (even with magic nanobot

Brett Paatsch

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