[ExI] to install
femmechakra at yahoo.ca
Thu Jun 3 16:41:20 UTC 2010
--- On Thu, 6/3/10, samantha <sjatkins at mac.com> wrote:
> How is that? There are huge costs. They instill
> mystical claptrap as the basis for everything they
> teach. It becomes a sort of package deal in the minds
> of many. The claptrap is the reason why the morality
> is so and the reason why every thing good in their lives is
> good is because they are good. Vicious circle.
> This is not by accident. Religions are designed to
> install themselves in this way. Instead of learning
> ethics on the basis of reason and reality a version of
> ethics is learned based on mysticism and acceptance on
> faith. This is incredibly costly. It splits the
> mind that takes it seriously. Most minds
> don't take it that seriously out of self-defense. As a
> result ethics becomes this untrustworthy realm one gives lip
> service to but really does not have integrated at all.
> Morality is split from reality. The mind
> compartmentalizes after all and simply will no longer look
> at some things deeply. Very costly.
I probably didn't explain myself properly again. Yesterday I visited an old friend, that like Spike, has a 2 year old. She has recently returned to church. She is very well aware of the garbage they teach. So when I asked, "why go then?". She replied, "it's the only place I know that people help each other and help others in a community environment."
I always liked church as a social network but don't agree with what is taught.
--- On Thu, 6/3/10, Stefano Vaj <stefano.vaj at gmail.com> wrote:
> Even though I am not especially a fan of "religious"
> jargon, nor am
> persuaded that we should indulge in it, I would have
> nothing per se
> against the fact of children going once a week to a
> building called
> "church of Extropy"... ;-)
Cute but that is where I was going with this. I was thinking how great it would be if people could go once a week and be taught the real facts. Learn about respect, honesty, helping others, believing in a cosmic energy for the greater good. If churches could be replaced with "Community centers" everyone would benefit. Yes I know, wishful thinking.
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