[ExI] Flash of insight...

Brent Allsop brent.allsop at canonizer.com
Sun Oct 31 22:31:29 UTC 2010

And remember that there are two parts to most conscious perception.  
There is the conscious knowledge, and it's  referent.  For out of  body 
experiences, the knowledge of our 'spirit' or 'I' leaves our knowledge 
of our body (all in our brain).

Our conscious knowledge of our body has a referent in reality, but  our 
knowledge of this 'spirit' does not.  Surely in the future we'll be able 
to alter and represent all this conscious knowledge any way we want.  
And evolution surely had survivable reasons for usually representing 
this 'I' just behind our knowledge of our eyes.

Brent  Allsop

On 10/31/2010 3:44 PM, ablainey at aol.com wrote:
> I completely agree John and if my eyes were located elsewhere, that 
> would be the centre of my perceived consciousness. As such the concept 
> of position isn't usefull at all. It would only prove such if someone 
> posts that they feel their 'self' is located somewhere other than the 
> head. Which considering the size of our skin and the massive level of 
> sensory information it creates, its interesting that the I isn't more 
> body centric. It just goes to show how much priority the visual and 
> auditory senses have.
> I wonder where blind people feel they are? hmmm.
> A
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Clark <jonkc at bellsouth.net>
> To: ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> Sent: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 17:44
> Subject: Re: [ExI] Flash of insight...
> On Oct 31, 2010, at 5:05 AM, ABlainey at aol.com 
> <mailto:ABlainey at aol.com> wrote:
>> About general conciousness.*'I'*am located in my head and the exact 
>> position varies.
> But that has nothing to do with the position of your brain, it's 
> because the sense organs for 4 of your 5 senses  are exclusively 
> located on your head; if your brain was in your foot you'd still feel 
> "I" was located in your head. And if you are thinking very hard about 
> the Great Wall Of China then, if the concept of position has any 
> useful meaning when dealing with consciousness which it probably 
> doesn't, then your consciousness is in China.
>  John K Clark
> =
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