[ExI] SETI for Post Singularity Civs

Rafal Smigrodzki rafal.smigrodzki at gmail.com
Sat Jan 24 15:38:57 UTC 2015


On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 1:23 PM, BillK <pharos at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> The obvious response is to use your own logic and ask why the
> quadrillions of ETs are not eating their suns?
> Are you the only one in the universe that wants to do that?  :)
>

### One of about ten thousand, give or take a couple orders of magnitude.
This is my rough guess at the number of humans who thought about it and
came to similar conclusions. And ETs do not exist, or else they would have
eaten their suns.

>
> I think the big step required to face up to is that what we want now
> will be nothing like what we want as post-sing intelligences. Even in
> our brief lifespan what we want as 20 year olds is not what we want as
> 50 year olds.
>

### Let's not anthropomorphize - what humans of various ages want is the
contingent outcome of a more general process, namely evolution, and
observation of multiple outcomes of evolution seems to indicate that
usually survivors have an interest in survival, hard-coded in whatever
informational medium it is that undergoes evolutionary selection. The
medium may change (RNA, DNA, computer memory, human social sphere) but the
message stays the same:

It wants to live. Forever.

Regards,

Voldemort

PS You can stop evolution but for that you need a stable singleton organism
controlling all usable resources. A mere "fast thinker" or
"superintelligent" is not enough.
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