[ExI] cool article by shostak
William Flynn Wallace
foozler83 at gmail.com
Thu Nov 17 15:15:59 UTC 2016
It's intelligence that distinguishes us from the other animals and makes
us human. John
It's a very fine line. I like this analogy: suppose a frog whose ability
to jump is limited to 5 inches, vertically. Then that frog is put at the
bottom of a staircase in which each step is 6 inches. Another frog who can
jump 6 inches can go all the way to the top.
So what looks like a huge qualitative difference between these two frogs is
really a very small quantitative difference.
Very fine line between us and apes.
Is intelligence really just a quantitative thing, or are dozens of
qualitative processes there too? Emotions can vary quantitatively but the
biggest feature of them is qualitative - anger is different from anxiety,
I wish I knew enough about AI to understand how they are going to program
qualitative states into a computer.
I wish someone knew enough about animal emotions for us to compare us to
It would seem that emotions are a much more fuzzy topic than intelligence,
but perhaps our definitions of intelligence just are too limited to
appreciate the nonquantitative aspects of it.
I am not trying to define what a human is, or just how we differ from lower
animals. I don't think we know enough for that yet.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:30 PM, John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I agree with the logic of this article, but there's something
>> missing.Yeah - it's the rest of what it means to be human: emotions and
>> feelings and smells and tastes
> That's not what makes us human, other creatures on this planet have been
> able to feel and smell and taste for at least 500 million years, they've
> behaved as if they had emotions too. It's intelligence that distinguishes
> us from the other animals and makes us human.
>> Would I give up those things for a higher IQ? What do you think?
> I see no reason you couldn't have both.
>> If you would, you are as cold as the machines referred to in the article.
> I think it would be easier, far easier, for us to make a emotional
> machine that a intelligent, certainly Evolution found that to be the case.
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