[ExI] Update on the Hawaiian observatory shutdown

Rafal Smigrodzki rafal.smigrodzki at gmail.com
Fri Sep 20 01:28:02 UTC 2019


On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 2:02 AM Stuart LaForge via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

>
> The telescope is only a casualty if the money is spent somewhere else.
> If astronomers are patient, they may not have to settle for the second
> best locale.
>

### So any harm is the astronomers' fault, after all.

OK.
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>
> > ### It takes two sides to have a game. If the umpire says they lost
> > but they still go up a mountain and harass the winners, they are no
> > sportsmen, and they should not be treated as such. What we see there
> > is not a game, it's a dirty fight.  --------------
>
> Game or dirty fight, they are winning this round because federal law
> is on their side:
>

### Really?

 OK.

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>
> We must reconcile with the native Hawaiians or risk violating our own
> laws to remove them from the mountain by force. That is the reality of
> the situation for the time being.
>

### "We" need to reconcile with violent lawbreakers?

OK.

So let me ask you just one political question:

On whose side are you?

Rafal
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