[ExI] farm country, was: RE: kiwis keeping it real

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Sun Jun 21 17:18:40 UTC 2020


What is depressing to me is that so many poor people don't raise any food.
All it takes is a 5 gallon bucket, available every mile or so on the
highway, and you have a tomato bed.  Probably inside watching TV.  I wonder
just how much time is spent unproductively - TV, smartphone, video games
and more.  We have somehow taken people off the farms, lured them into
cities where they can't grow much food, never mind keeping goats and pigs,
and so they have nothing to do with their spare time but get the
electronics out.

Most proles in  history would  not understand the meaning of 'spare time'
.."Men work from sun to sun but a woman's work is never done."

spike - we drove from LA to SF on back roads.  We stopped once so I could
go into a supermarket and get some artichokes, big fields of which we had
just passed.  Surprise!! Same price as back home.  I still wonder about
that.  bill w

On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 11:08 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> > *On Behalf Of *SR Ballard via extropy-chat
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] farm country, was: RE: kiwis keeping it real
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> >…Well, Spike, we actually throw away at least half of that food.
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> >…Maybe high rise growing won’t completely solve the problem. In fact I
> doubt it will. But green is good for human psychology, so are trees.
> Nothing wrong with that. They will also help to reduce pollution.
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> >…Reducing transportation reduces cost, fossil fuels, and deadly
> accidents…SR Ballard
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> Hi SR, ja I agree with everything you wrote.  Indoor farming will always
> be specialty high-value crops, rather than a means of feeding the masses.
> The kinds of stuff one would grow there might be orchids and wasabi and
> that kind of thing, where a prole might be able to offer tickets, where
> proles might pay to come in there and work the crops, their only means of
> getting their hands dirty, create kind of  a Tom Sawyer farm analogous to
> the time Aunt Polly made Tom paint the fence, but he managed to convince
> the other boys it was such grand fun, Tom had them paying him for the
> privilege of painting that fence.  We do that with a big indoor hydroponic
> farm in the middle of the city.
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> Consider: Stanford has a community garden where volunteers come regularly
> to play farmer.  One day a week they have no-engine Saturday.  It is what
> it sounds like: a day where all the work is done by hand tools and manual
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> Imagine a mid-city farm as a big indoor foliage park.  Advertise it as a
> place to breathe pure high-oxygen low carbon dioxide air, a calm clean
> place to mediate, refresh the soul, cleanse the system in a serene
> environment among a verdant explosion of plant life, that kinda crap.
> Charge them twenty bucks an hour to be there, heh, plenty of big city
> suckers would pay.  Oh my, the profits to be made, mercy, just thinking
> about it makes my butt hurt.
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