[ExI] restoration-ready

spike at rainier66.com spike at rainier66.com
Thu May 27 20:43:35 UTC 2021


 

 

From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf Of William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 12:15 PM
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Cc: William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ExI] restoration-ready

 

Oh, don't tell me - you are one of 'those' - sunny disposition people, making everyone around them sick of you (and with envy as well, I reckon).  Think of the people in AFrica, in Bangladesh, in downtown San Francisco - get your empathy going and try to think like them.  Eat bad food,  TAke up smoking cigars, make your wife mad at you.  Probably won't work.   bill w

 

 

 

Billw, she knew how I am when she married me.  We are Eeyore and Tigger.

 

I had a thought on this today after I wrote the Despondex post.  Recently I posted about a worry I have had about uploading: what if an upload can think but not feel?

 

Someone here posted that these two cannot be separated: a thinking being is a feeling being.  I see those two types of thinking as being more orthogonal to each other, but I might be wrong on that.

 

An idea occurred to me.  We know that sometimes two separate traits co-evolve in such a way as to reinforce each other or drive each other.  Perhaps human intellect drove emotion, then emotion drove intellect.  It could even be fashioned into a mate selection scenario: deeply feeling people were more desirable as mates, and the offspring of deeply feeling people were capable of higher intellect.

 

Another take: what if… we go with the well-known observation that comfortable people accomplish nothing.  Uncomfortable people writhe and squirm, changing things trying to be comfortable.  If humans were becoming the moodiest of beasts, then humans would be the most restless, which might drive technology, in order to increase the likelihood that our offspring would survive.  Technology enabled humans to expand territory and produce more food, then later to preserve food, which enabled more developed brains, more intellect, more emotion.  In that view, three human characteristics co-evolved: emotion, intellect and mastery of technology.

 

spike

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