[ExI] India and the periodic table

[Adrian Tymes]

On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 1:43 PM efc--- via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Jun 2023, Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 2:55 PM efc--- via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> >       X, Y chromosomes and biological sexes and evolution are facts or
> the
> >       currently best know explanation supported by science and
> experiment. Why
> >       wouldn't you mention it? It has nothing to do with culture.
> >
> > Because some people have a cultural investment in that not being the
> explanation, science be damned.
>
> So? Let them. As long as they don't interfere with me


That is precisely the problem: they wish to interfere with other people.


> Eventually they will fade away if they reject science
> and technology.
>

In theory.  The concern is short term, while they have not yet faded away.

Further, they're trying to reap the benefits of technology while rejecting
the realities of science.  They'd be quite happy for themselves to live
forever.


> If such a person becomes a dictator, they still cannot control the laws
> of physics, so eventually they will self destruct or the people will
> have a revolution and throw them out.
>

Given what they have control over, "self destruct" can include starting a
nuclear war that many on this list would not survive.  Extraordinary
measures were taken to prevent this the last time one of them was in charge
(and tried to be a dictator).


> On a more peaceful level, there is always the option of working around a
> problem or moving away from the madmen.


For too many of us, neither of those is an option.  To where, exactly,
would one move that would not suffer greatly from a nuclear war, even if no
nuclear weapons directly impact that area?  Also there's the practical
question of, to where would most of us move where we could continue to be
productive and effective, that is neither North America nor Europe, where
many of said weapons would impact?  The libertarian ideal of "just move
away" requires some place to move to, and there is no place on Earth that
is beyond sufficiently vengeful enforcement, nor will significant amounts
of off-Earth habitation become available during the time period when the
current iteration of the problem exists.

But it is not about culture, it
> is about mad people and that has nothing to do with culture.
>

Even mad people have their own culture, mad as it is.
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