[ExI] Conscious AI or a Zombie?

Ben Zaiboc ben at zaiboc.net
Wed Jun 21 18:49:07 UTC 2023


On 21/06/2023 16:39, bill w wrote:
> Yes, I am a biological machine and so is an amoeba.   bill w
>
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 9:59 AM Gadersd via extropy-chat 
> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>>     If all of this is moving in the direction of giving human rights
>>     to machines, I think it's wrong.
>
>     Are you not a biological machine?
>
>>     On Jun 21, 2023, at 10:17 AM, William Flynn Wallace via
>>     extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>     If all of this is moving in the direction of giving human rights
>>     to machines, I think it's wrong.   bill w
>

So we can agree that the term 'machine' is irrelevant. All complex 
systems that process energy and information can be called machines.

For a system to be intelligent, aware, and be awarded rights, it has to 
be a machine, but not all machines can be aware, intelligent, etc.

So it's not the fact of being a machine that's significant, it's what 
kind of machine that matters.

By which I mean, how complex, and in what ways. I agree that giving a 
lawn mower human rights would be nonsense, but there will certainly be 
some AIs, at some point, that should have rights. We almost certainly 
don't have such AIs yet, but we will.

Ben
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