[ExI] uploads etc.

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Tue Feb 27 13:29:00 UTC 2024


I think that without a direct connection conversation between uploads is
impossible.  So telepathy is just as impossible with uploads as it is with
physical people.   bill w

On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 7:26 AM BillK via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 at 00:38, Mike Dougherty via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> I was going to let it go, but I do see this as a growing concern.  We
>> recently noted that bytes/message have been going down for years.  The
>> logical conclusion of this is that uploaded humans won't actually
>> communicate with each other at all.  In this case BillK's message was less
>> than a tweet worth of snarcasm, a prompt for an AI answer, and the kind of
>> insightful perspective WE used to be capable of producing.
>>
>> What makes "human level AI" if humans evolve into simulation of wet bio
>> completely isolated from this world by AR and assistive technology?
>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
> After some discussion, I have the feeling that these advances will need
> each other to progress together.
> AI seems to agree.
> BillK
>
> I asked -
> Will research into mind uploading and AGI assist each other?
>
> AI answer -
>
> Yes, research into mind uploading and AGI (Artificial General
> Intelligence) can and likely will assist each other in several ways. This
> mutual assistance is driven by the shared goal of understanding and
> replicating human intelligence, which is a complex and multifaceted
> challenge. Here's how the research in these areas can complement and
> enhance each other:
> 1. *Understanding Human Intelligence*
>
>    - *Mind Uploading*: By attempting to upload human minds to digital
>    formats, researchers aim to understand the intricacies of human
>    consciousness and cognition. This process involves mapping the brain's
>    activity, identifying patterns of thought, and translating them into
>    digital form.
>    - *AGI Development*: AGI research seeks to create systems that can
>    perform any intellectual task that a human being can do. This involves
>    developing algorithms and systems that can learn, reason, and understand in
>    a way that mimics human intelligence.
>
> 2. *Technological Advancements*
>
>    - *Mind Uploading*: The development of technologies for scanning and
>    translating brain activity can provide insights into the physical and
>    computational requirements for human intelligence. These technologies could
>    also serve as a foundation for AGI, offering a way to model and simulate
>    human cognition.
>    - *AGI Development*: The creation of AGI systems that can perform
>    complex tasks and learn from experience can provide a benchmark for
>    understanding human intelligence. It can also inspire new approaches to
>    mind uploading, such as developing digital substrates that can host
>    uploaded minds.
>
> 3. *Ethical and Philosophical Considerations*
>
>    - *Mind Uploading*: The ethical and philosophical questions
>    surrounding the uploading of human minds are closely related to those
>    surrounding AGI. Both fields raise questions about the nature of
>    consciousness, the rights of individuals, and the implications for society.
>    - *AGI Development*: The development of AGI systems that can think and
>    learn like humans raises similar ethical and philosophical questions.
>    Researchers in both fields are grappling with the implications of creating
>    systems that can mimic human intelligence.
>
> 4. *Resource Allocation and Prioritization*
>
>    - *Mind Uploading*: The resources and focus of the scientific
>    community are often shared between these fields. Researchers and
>    organizations might prioritize one over the other based on perceived
>    urgency, ethical considerations, or technological feasibility.
>    - *AGI Development*: The development of AGI is a major focus in the
>    field of artificial intelligence, with significant investments and research
>    efforts. The progress in AGI can influence the direction and prioritization
>    of mind uploading research.
>
> Conclusion
>
> The research into mind uploading and AGI is interconnected, with each
> field influencing and benefiting from the other. The shared goal of
> understanding and replicating human intelligence drives the collaboration
> between these areas. As both fields advance, they will likely continue to
> assist each other, contributing to a deeper understanding of human
> intelligence and paving the way for future technological advancements.
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