[extropy-chat] Re: riots in france

[Dirk Bruere]

On 11/7/05, Jack Parkinson <isthatyoujack at icqmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Dirk wrote:
> >one of the fundamental features of real integration is intermarriage.
> >For example, our Black population is intermarrying at an estimated 25-40%
> >per generation.
> >Why isn't this happening with Moslems?
>
> I agree about intermarriage - this is an absolute hallmark of true
> integration. However it takes a generation or two to achieve. While the
> parents have the hang ups and cultural prejudices - the kids just do what
> comes naturally.


If anything there has been a bigger Moslem population in Britain than a
Black one.
It has nothing to do with length of time in this case.


Interesting examples - Afghan (Moslem) camel trains opened up the interior
> of Australia a century or more ago - and Moslems were the founding fathers
> and respected elder citizens of pioneer towns like Alice Springs. The
> Liddle family which owns vast tracts of Central Australia today (truly
> Texas-sized vast) is directly descended from these pioneers and is Afghan,
> Scots and Aboriginal (in about equal proportions).


That's partly because they had no choice but to intermarry - or not marry at
all.
There wasn't a large enough immigrant Moslem pool to 'keep to themselves',
nor could they import more Moslems in the space of a few hours journey
through arranged overseas marriages.

The trouble is - remarks like:
>
> >It wasn't Blacks who blew up the trains in London.
>
> Fall quite clearly into the 'hate' category as far as I can see... This
> kind
> of generalized remark about an entire group simply makes the ignorant
> assumption of homogeneity where heterogeneity demonstrably exists.


So, who blew up the trains?
Was it little old white ladies?
However, I think I can stand behind the statement that 'not a single Black
citizen bombed the trains in London'.

Any statement that begins: 'All Moslems/blacks/Irish/Poles... (insert
> favorite despised minority here) is just a confession of personal
> prejudice,
> bigotry and ignorance...


Well, death to your straw man - because I didn't say 'all'.


Dirk
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