[ExI] More Fermi Paradox

[Tomaz Kristan]

> It's a collaborative effort, not a fight.

That depends. May be both. You have some constrains inside which you have
to operate, to avoid an unnecessary conflict.

OTOH, you have to do, what you have to do. If something evil is on the
horizon, you ought to fight it.




On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org> wrote:

> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 08:54:04AM +0200, Tomaz Kristan wrote:
> > > What if another civ has already done this?
> >
> > Then you are lucky. Others have done the job, otherwise you should.
>
> This doesn't compute, if you want to maximize computation before
> universe winds itself down. So you'd go for a hard relativistic
> expansion as early as possible, in order to get hold of as
> much spacetime as possible before inflation makes most of it
> inaccessible. You'd then maximize the computation utilization
> in order to render as many experience-moments as possible, until
> the final curtain.
>
> Aiming for anything less guarantees a half-assed job.
>
> > Still, if their try is not good enough, you have to overwrite their
> probes
> > front. As best as you can.
>
> In case of omega-grade substrate there is no difference between
> the expansion front, regardless of the point of origin.
> It's a collaborative effort, not a fight. After conversion,
> there's slow, random diffusion across volume, with sufficient
> spatial diversity variation that the point if origin is also
> irrelevant. So no extra incentive to fight, either, just regular
> Darwin in motion.
>
> > But proceed as nobody has done anything of that kind yet. Do it right and
> > fast.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Andrew Mckee <andymck35 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 15 May 2013 02:44:51 +1200, BillK <pharos at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >  He mentions one thing I hadn't heard before. - Sandberg probes (from
> > >> you know who).
> > >> The suggestion here is that when a civ gets to the stage that it can
> > >> create self-replicating probes to go out and spam the universe,
> > >> another thought occurs..... What if another civ has already done this?
> > >>
> > >
> > > David Brin's novel - 'Existence'  kinda takes this idea and runs with
> it,
> > > definitely worth a read IMO.
> > >
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