[ExI] tech influence

spike spike66 at att.net
Wed Feb 12 23:07:11 UTC 2014


 

 

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[mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Tymes
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 1:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [ExI] tech influence

 

On Feb 11, 2014 7:21 PM, "spike" <spike66 at att.net> wrote:
>>. And no need to export billions.  One or two young women with a bunch of
frozen embryos would work for a start.

>.Except for the "raising the children to be capable of doing much of
consequence, and caring at all about repaying those who sent them" bit.

My concern is the opposite.  Plenty of people will be interested in anything
a Mars native has to say.  All the interesting intellectual content will
come from Earth, so my notion is that children growing up on Mars may have
an obsessive ambition to come here.

>.Seriously, just sending people to give birth and ignoring everything else
that makes up a civilization is sending them to die.  Unless you claim
everything else can be automated, but by the time that could be done (it's
not yet possible in the much more forgiving environment of Earth), there
would be no need to give birth either: just program mind children and maybe
forge robotic bodies for them.

Ja this scenario only works under the possibility (unknown but not zero)
that uploading is either inherently impossible or much more difficult than
we have imagined.  The second scenario is one I find compelling for all its
precedents.  An example is in noting the things that were being said about
how we would solve all these human diseases and understand so many things
when we could read the entire human genome.  OK so we did it.  Where's all
our superpowers?  When do we get those?

What we discovered is another layer of complication, and at least another
one implied below that one.

That applies to other areas as well.  This leads me to think we may not be
all that close to uploading, but close to machines capable of carving out a
habitat below the surface of Mars, where one-way travelers will attempt to
raise and educated children.

Store this post somewhere where you can find it again, take good care of
your health, come back and see how we are doing 40 years from now.

spike

 

 

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