[ExI] Atheism again

[William Flynn Wallace]

Thank you, bill w, for putting much more clearly and concisely than I've
been able to do, why religion and transhumanism are not compatible.

And thank you, Ben.  Thanks are extremely rare in the group (???).

I think you cannot get more basic than epistemology.  "How do you know?" is
the most basic question.  I wish school children were taught the ways to
answer this.

bill w

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:40 AM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On 19/04/2020 19:46, billw wrote:
>
> Empiricism is science and its methods and belief has no place in it.  We
> don't believe in Darwin's ideas:  we follow them because they are the best
> at predicting and explaining phenomena we study.  Empirical facts like the
> finches.
>
> There is no way a person who is basically an empiricist and another who
> uses authoritarianism and intuition, to have a debate.  They are accepting
> things based on entirely different criteria and so are talking at cross
> purposes.
>
>
> Thank you, bill w, for putting much more clearly and concisely than I've
> been able to do, why religion and transhumanism are not compatible.
>
> This doesn't mean that a religious person can't also be a transhumanist,
> or vice-versa, but just as with the civil engineer that Spike was talking
> about, they are going to have two incompatible world-views going on
> (assuming that 'religious' and 'transhumanist' keep their normal meanings,
> as I've discussed before), and just like Spike, I can't really imagine what
> kind of mental gymnastics you'd have to go through to sustain that and not
> go crazy. In fact, I suspect that 'crazy' is really the only sensible way
> to describe such a person.
>
> --
> Ben Zaiboc
>
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