[ExI] e: texas county judge demands residents wear bananas

[William Flynn Wallace]

Spike, I have found that the best way to treat women is to treat them like
ladies.  If they are not ladies, I will find out sooner or later.  In fact,
I think that treating girls like women, and women like ladies actually
helps girls to become ladies, if they can get over the teenage
embarrassment.  bill w

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 11:45 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> Spike, a female student answered your question some time aga.  I said that
> I wanted to be a fly on the wall when girls got together in the dorm and
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> She said "No, you don't."  So I said "You mean that girls can be just as
> nasty, mean, crude, etc. as guys?"  She said Yes.  Dashed my opinion of
> women in a way. But them I have always been rather naive' in some ways.
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> Well sure, but again please: there is no ethical way to be that fly on the
> wall.  If a secret recording is made, even just audio, then listening to
> that is as unethical as viewing the secret hidden camera video made in a
> hotel or locker room.  In some ways, the secret audio is worse than the
> locker room video, for one is mere nudity, and we all know exactly what
> that looks like (which is not to say we ever get tired of it (I don’t.))
> But a private discussion is secret, and I would not be a fly on the wall.
> If I woke up and discovered I was a fly on the wall, I would buzz around
> the faces of the participants until she swatted my ass.  I would deserve it.
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> Your student who said “No, you don’t” was right.  I choose to keep my
> ignorance and embrace my illusions about the fairer sex.  There really are
> things I don’t want to know and some things I would unknow if that could be
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> My sociologist friend’s project from college was one of the most
> educational experiences I had there.
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> >…In my personal experience, if that is not superfluous, I have met very
> few women I would call jerks, and many men.  Girls, women are fairly far
> apart growing up, the females with more social and emotional intelligence.
> I don't think most men ever catch up with the women.  Men are likely not to
> see any reason for manners, muchless etiquette, and have to be trained by
> their girl friends and wives how to act in many situations.  Do you agree,
> men?
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> BillW, can you see any differences in the way guys act when it is only
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> Is it not reasonable to extrapolate that women have some kind of analogous
> difference in the way they carry on when it is only women present?
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> The problem is that there is no completely ethical way to find out.  If a
> hidden camera/audio recorder were placed and the single-gender meeting took
> place where none of the participants knew the interaction was being
> recorded, it would be unethical to make the recording or view it once it
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> This is the sociologists’ dilemma: much or nearly all their data must be
> collected in such a way that it doesn’t impact the test subjects.  The best
> way to do that is to be deceptive.
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> We wouldn’t know if women were jerks when they are with only women, but I
> have heard women bully each other in a way analogous to but not exactly
> like the way men do.
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