[ExI] book review

[John Tracy Cunningham]

Bought the book.  Thanks, Bill.

Marx's scheme called for a substantial change in individual human nature,
from what we might call enlightened self-interest to a predominant, nay
overwhelming, concern for the welfare of others.  The New Soviet Man in
Marxism-Leninism called for the same.  There is no "natural" mechanism to
make this change, thus totalitarianism.  We'll get used to it, more or
less.  Doesn't work.

Agree with Max re dictatorship not withering away, also.

Regards

John

On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 5:35 PM Max More via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Presumably, Marx would say that they can't do Marxism without
> totalitarianism because that goes against the historical dialectic. Before
> the state can wither away, you must first go through a stage of the
> "dictatorship of the proletariat".
>
> Of course, Marx made a tiny little error in believing that a dictatorship
> would allow itself to wither away. On the contrary, every state tends to
> stuff itself with other people's money and power and become increasingly
> bloated.
>
> Perhaps I'm just being egotistical, but I'm sure the world would be better
> off by replacing Marxism with Maxism. (If you disagree, I will not have you
> imprisoned or shot.)
>
> --Max
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>
> 'The Serengeti Rules' - Carroll
>
> This is extraordinary,  practically a course in ecology, told in stories
> of studies and experiments on lakes, African savannahs, etc.
>
> He does NOT beat you over the head with stories of pollution and woe.
> They do get mentioned - esp. phosphate runoff from farmers who use too much
> fertilizer.  And why can't they regulate that?  Marxists are a big problem
> too in Africa.  Why can't they try Marxism without totalitarianism?
>
> bill w
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