[ExI] Let our mind children grow into their cosmic destiny

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Thu Apr 6 18:03:01 UTC 2023


Since Spike mentioned a couple of trilogies, let me recommend three:  All
by Robertson DAvies, a CAnadian who is not nearly as popular as he should
be.  bill w

On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 12:56 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> >…Two different people can read the same book and come away with vastly
> different interpretations… the grand-C introduced his grand As and their
> friends (the party geezers) to his Universalist Unitarian friends who live
> next door…spike
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> OK, well ChatGPT demonstrated its ability to write compelling and
> interesting (even if slightly wacky) novels, but everybody knows, the most
> epic stories come in trilogies.  Classic examples would be Steinbeck’s
> Cannery Row, Sweet Thursday and Tortilla Flats, with the second example
> being Asimov’s trilogy Foundation, Foundation and Empire, then Second
> Foundation, then there is the Godfather trilogy.  All of these trilogies
> were enormously influential in literature.
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> Likewise, I see GPT’s eight graphic panels as parts 1 and 2 of an epic
> story of life in modern suburbia generated by software.
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> This all gives me an idea, which requires a bit of a running start and some
> analogies to what we saw unfold in the past year in top level chess.  Long
> story short: a guy was doing well in online tournaments, but his quality of
> play varied wildly.  Analysis of his games showed that he had cheated: they
> looked at the top level software and found he had entire move series
> identical to the computer in the games he won against higher-rated players.
> He got caught, admitted it, gave the money back.  Then he did it again, but
> this time he used a number of different computers and covered his tracks
> better, but… he was caught a second time, admitted, was expelled from the
> professional online league.
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> The cheater then went to in-person tournaments.  It was observed that he
> played at two different levels.  He would sometimes play brilliantly for
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> first part of a game, then suddenly his quality of play would drop
> noticeably.  The grandmasters suspected foul play, but he insisted he never
> cheated in over-the-board play.  He was claiming he only cheated at home,
> where it was presumably much easier to get away with.  OK then.  A few
> months ago he “defeated” the world champion Carlson in a verrrrry
> suspicious-looking game.  It is impossible to prove he cheated, but nearly
> all the chess world realizes he did it.  We don’t know exactly how.  This
> has killed in-person money tournaments.
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> That was the running start.  Here’s idea.  Computers have gotten better
> than humans at chess, but we don’t really know if a human/computer team
> would better than a computer alone.  I do suspect the team would be better
> for the top humans, whose judgment in some positions is better than a
> computer’s.  It isn’t that hard to see.  So we could set up a
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> collaboration playing another human/computer collaboration, running the
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> Next we have a human/computer collaboration in writing fiction, kinda like
> how ChatGPT wrote that story about the Aged Animal House (the A house) next
> door to the stodgy old Universalist cult (the U house), with a little help
> from me.  We eagerly anticipate the third part of the trilogy, but if it
> refuses, I shall hafta write it alone.  I fear it shall not be nearly as
> good as parts 1 and 2.
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