[ExI] GPT-4 on its inability to solve the symbol grounding problem

Jason Resch jasonresch at gmail.com
Mon Apr 10 19:51:27 UTC 2023

On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 10:50 PM Gordon Swobe <gordon.swobe at gmail.com> wrote:

>> On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 10:13 PM Jason Resch via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>> Using the phrase "only software" suggests to me you are not familiar
>>> with the implications of the Church-Turing thesis.
> I am quite familiar with the thesis. I differ with some people, especially
> here, about the implications.
> I have shown the converse, denying their awareness , leads to a logical
>>> contradiction.
> I think you have only mangled the language. My smarthome doorbell does no
> more than mindlessly detect motion, yet you call that "awareness." Even if
> I allow for that generous use of the term "aware," you take it a
> step further and equate this mindless process to consciousness. That is not
> what I or think most people mean by either awareness or consciousness.
> It looks to me that you are merely anthropomorphizing the machine I call
> my doorbell. You would probably say that my thermostat in the hallway of my
> home is also "aware" and "conscious."  But as with my doorbell, I doubt my
> thermostat has any private first person subjective experience of its
> existence or surroundings, which is what I mean by alive and aware and
> conscious.
What is the simplest possible conscious state that you can imagine? What
are its contents?

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