[ExI] Peer review reviewed

Adrian Tymes atymes at gmail.com
Sun Jan 8 04:37:32 UTC 2023


Getting back to Maslow's hierarchy, would there be a basis for evaluating
children to see if their physiological and safety needs are being met, and
to treat those whose are not differently from those whose are?

The obvious example that comes to mind is interventions to make sure that
those whose needs are not being met, are met so they show up to school
ready and able to learn, because the alternative is that their time in
school is largely wasted and they may interfere with other children who are
able and trying to learn.  (For example, a girl who fears being raped or
killed while at home might try to get detention as much as possible, as an
excuse to spend as much time as possible at school - one of the multiple
reasons detentions don't always work as punishments.)

On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 10:37 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> If you want to see a real swamp pit stinking to high Heaven, delve into
> educational research. The topic of whether students should be separated by
> ability or 'mainstreamed' is a hot topic and I do not know the current
> status of those ideas in actual schools.  It all depends on whether you
> want to consider that emotional damage (theoretical) will happen in
> students who do not make the upper levels of ability.  I say separate.
> Students should get used to their place in the world.  Being downrated
> might motivate them.  You may have to put the top students in virtual
> learning rather than sitting in a class with others of lesser ability
> (where they would be tutors rather than learners).  bill w
>
> On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 12:18 PM Dave S via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, January 7th, 2023 at 11:52 AM, William Flynn Wallace via
>> extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>> Montessori - learn what you want to at your own rate. Friend of mine went
>> to a school like that to the third grade. Moved to Oklahoma and had to be
>> put back in the first grade - could not read or write - but boy could he
>> fingerpaint.
>>
>>
>> Children can't be expected to know what they need to learn. Reading and
>> writing are mandatory skills: learning them should never be optional.
>>
>> Motivation needs a place to go - to aim your efforts at. What if someone
>> wasn't interested in anything a school had to offer? Both of my sons were
>> like that.
>>
>>
>> Public school aims at the least common denominator. That ensures that
>> critical skills are taught, but also ensures that intelligent,
>> self-motivated students will be bored to tears. Obviously, different
>> students need different teaching approaches.
>>
>> -Dave
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