[ExI] Peer review reviewed AND Detecting ChatGPT texts

Gadersd gadersd at gmail.com
Mon Jan 9 15:19:10 UTC 2023


Models derived from ChatGPT’s technology could be trained via reinforcement learning to be very good at converting people to a particular ideology or religion. Essentially, a model could be rewarded for each successful conversion or partial conversion. As the model acquires rewards it would learn more about human nature and the conversion process and become better and better. This applies to any kind of ideology, good and bad, as well as product marketing.

> On Jan 8, 2023, at 11:09 PM, Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> Oh, interesting.  That explains a lot.
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> Oh, and Spike made a great comment about AI church missionaries.  So does that mean an AI will have desires to convert people to particular religions, or ways of thinking?
> Man, It's going to be a very different world, very soon.
> Will AI's try to get people with mistaken evil / destructive beliefs (and the associated actions) to change?  Or is that all religion?
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> On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 3:32 PM Gadersd via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org <mailto:extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>> wrote:
> That isn’t entirely fair to ChatGPT. The system reads in tokens rather than individual characters so ChatGPT doesn’t actually “see" individual characters. Tokens are sometimes whole words or parts of words, but are not usually single letters. Another issue is that ChatGPT is allowed only a finite time window to answer. It doesn’t get to ponder indefinitely as a human would before answering. It may perform better if you give it several iterations.
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>> On Jan 8, 2023, at 4:05 PM, Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org <mailto:extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>> wrote:
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>> Yes, I’ve heard people warning us about when they start to try to sell us stuff.
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>> And we aren’t there yet.  My friend asked it to write a sentence without the letter e.  But it failed, and there were e letters in the sentence.  When this was pointed out ChatGPT got more and more obviously mistaken (misspelling words and such) as it tried to justify itself.
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>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 1:57 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org <mailto:extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>> wrote:
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>> >...If ChatGPT is working as the front-end to Bing, there should be fewer factual errors in the replies that it writes to questions.
>> In practice, people will begin to treat it as an all-knowing Oracle.
>> Will the new Bing become a poor man's AGI?
>> Could politicians ask for economic or wartime advice?
>> The replies from ChatGPT will always sound very reasonable, but..........  BillK
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>> We must somehow figure out how to get ChatGPT to sell stuff for us.  The sales potential of such a device is mind-numbing.
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