[ExI] [Extropolis] Experimental Qualia

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Sun Jan 15 15:02:04 UTC 2023


You know, infallibly, that redness in your left brain hemisphere is the
same as redness in your right hemisphere.

That is not necessarily true.  We know that the corpus callosum can inhibit
input to the right hemisphere when the input is language.  The CC is not
just a carrier.   bill w

On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 8:57 AM Brent Allsop <brent.allsop at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi John,
> We all know you never stop repeating this claim, that colorness is not
> approachable via objective science.  But this "there is no way" claim would
> be falsified If experimentalists demonstrated that computationally bound
> glutamate always produced the same redness experience, and that nobody
> could ever experience redness (i.e. no function could ever produce
> redness), without glutamate.  And nobody could ever demonstrate an
> exception to that.  That being the weakest form of 3 ways to falsify your
> "no way" claim
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JKwACeT3b1bta1M78wZ3H2vWkjGxwZ46OHSySYRWATs/edit>.
> You know, infallibly, that redness in your left brain hemisphere is the
> same as redness in your right hemisphere.
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 7:44 AM John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 9:31 AM Brent Allsop <brent.allsop at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > *why is everyone talking about experimenting on everything but the
>>> qualia, or at best something completely separated from the qualia,
>>> itself????*
>>>
>>
>> Because there's no way even in theory to employ the scientific method in
>> an investigation of the fundamental nature of qualia itself. So there's
>> nothing to talk about.
>>
>> John K Clark
>>
>>
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