[ExI] Update on the Hawaiian observatory shutdown
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Fri Sep 20 13:35:23 UTC 2019
> But I don't want to see 'elite' become a dirty word.
> bill w
Unfortunately, it already is, and has been as long as I’ve been able to understand that type of nuance.
Elite is used in mainly two contexts “the elite” which is an extremely loaded, negative statement, or a self-aggrandizing one, and “an elite ____”, where the blank is usually a martial reference, such as “fighting force”, “sniper”, “martial artist”. Only occasionally would it refer to other things in a matter-of-fact, non-judgemental way.
>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 8:31 PM Rafal Smigrodzki via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 2:02 AM Stuart LaForge via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>> The telescope is only a casualty if the money is spent somewhere else.
>>> If astronomers are patient, they may not have to settle for the second
>>> best locale.
>> ### So any harm is the astronomers' fault, after all.
>>> > ### It takes two sides to have a game. If the umpire says they lost
>>> > but they still go up a mountain and harass the winners, they are no
>>> > sportsmen, and they should not be treated as such. What we see there
>>> > is not a game, it's a dirty fight. --------------
>>> Game or dirty fight, they are winning this round because federal law
>>> is on their side:
>> ### Really?
>>> We must reconcile with the native Hawaiians or risk violating our own
>>> laws to remove them from the mountain by force. That is the reality of
>>> the situation for the time being.
>> ### "We" need to reconcile with violent lawbreakers?
>> So let me ask you just one political question:
>> On whose side are you?
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